Re: computer shuts down

How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is there
another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the motherboard?
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"Hello World" wrote:

> Check for dirty or malfunctioning fans on the CPU and all the case fans.
> Sounds like a overheating problem.
> If all the fans are clean and running fine, then suspect a failing
> power-supply.
>
>
>

"Barkimmy" <Barkimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is there
> another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the
motherboard?

Specialist computer stores have test equipment that
can test a power supply. This takes barely a minute
and is usually free, because power supplies fail regularly
and the store wants to sell you a new one. Typical
PC malfunctions that indicate a dying power supply
range from unordered shutdown to failure to read a
CD or hard drive, but no particular pattern warns of
future failure of the PS.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...ardware_Tshoot

http://www.wcgwiki.org/en/hardware/c...e_cpu_temp.cfm

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Barkimmy wrote:
> How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is
> there another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the
> motherboard?
>
>> Check for dirty or malfunctioning fans on the CPU and all the case
>> fans. Sounds like a overheating problem.
>> If all the fans are clean and running fine, then suspect a failing
>> power-supply.

Thank You Gerry. That does give me a lot to work with. I greatly appreciate
your quick response as well. That is why I come to this forum first. Plenty
of people with a desire to help. I learn a lot from the MVPs here and their
knowledge is greatly appreciated. But, along with that, it really helps to
hear from someone who has experienced the exact same problem and found the
fix. Also, as we are all aware, a fix for one sometimes doesn't help all.
Here we can learn all the possibilities and keep trying different solutions
til our own computers are back up and running. To those of us who are not so
much of an expert, that is a great feeling.
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"Gerry" wrote:

> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...ardware_Tshoot
>
> http://www.wcgwiki.org/en/hardware/c...e_cpu_temp.cfm
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Barkimmy wrote:
> > How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is
> > there another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the
> > motherboard?
> >
> >> Check for dirty or malfunctioning fans on the CPU and all the case
> >> fans. Sounds like a overheating problem.
> >> If all the fans are clean and running fine, then suspect a failing
> >> power-supply.
>
>
>

Thank you so much. I was wondering if it could be tested at a computer store.
But, I wasn't sure if I just had 'generator/alternator' on the brain. My car
is pissing on me as well....lol

Thanks again. Very helpful.
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Better Days!


"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "Barkimmy" <Barkimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BC38F32A-36E5-498F-A19A-8526C1BE78CD@microsoft.com...
>
> > How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is there
> > another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the
> motherboard?
>
> Specialist computer stores have test equipment that
> can test a power supply. This takes barely a minute
> and is usually free, because power supplies fail regularly
> and the store wants to sell you a new one. Typical
> PC malfunctions that indicate a dying power supply
> range from unordered shutdown to failure to read a
> CD or hard drive, but no particular pattern warns of
> future failure of the PS.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>
>

Power supplies fail regularly?? Give us factual data not emotional comments.
"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> "Barkimmy" <Barkimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BC38F32A-36E5-498F-A19A-8526C1BE78CD@microsoft.com...
>
>> How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also, is
>> there
>> another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from the
> motherboard?
>
> Specialist computer stores have test equipment that
> can test a power supply. This takes barely a minute
> and is usually free, because power supplies fail regularly
> and the store wants to sell you a new one. Typical
> PC malfunctions that indicate a dying power supply
> range from unordered shutdown to failure to read a
> CD or hard drive, but no particular pattern warns of
> future failure of the PS.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
>

Replace the radiator hose <G>?



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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Barkimmy wrote:
> Thank you so much. I was wondering if it could be tested at a
> computer store. But, I wasn't sure if I just had
> 'generator/alternator' on the brain. My car is pissing on me as
> well....lol
>
> Thanks again. Very helpful.
>
>> "Barkimmy" <Barkimmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BC38F32A-36E5-498F-A19A-8526C1BE78CD@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> How would one go about checking for a failing power supply? Also,
>>> is there another way to check CPU temp. other than with a tool from
>>> the motherboard?
>>
>> Specialist computer stores have test equipment that
>> can test a power supply. This takes barely a minute
>> and is usually free, because power supplies fail regularly
>> and the store wants to sell you a new one. Typical
>> PC malfunctions that indicate a dying power supply
>> range from unordered shutdown to failure to read a
>> CD or hard drive, but no particular pattern warns of
>> future failure of the PS.
>>
>> --
>> Don Phillipson
>> Carlsbad Springs
>> (Ottawa, Canada)

On May 5, 9:08*am, Barkimmy <Barki...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Thank you so much. I was wondering if it could be tested at acomputerstore..
> But, I wasn't sure if I just had 'generator/alternator' on the brain. My car
> is pissing on me as well....lol

Computer stores that use a power supply tester will not provide a
useful answer. Best power supply test (and only one that will
properly identify a defective supply without $hundreds in test
equipment) means leaving everything unchanged inside the computer.

Setup the system to access (multitask to) all peripherals
simultaneously. Play complex graphics (ie a movie) while playing
sound while searching the hard drive for files while downloading from
the internet while reading a CD, etc. Now the power supply is ready
to be tested.

A 3.5 digit multimeter should measure one of each power supply wires
- orange, red, purple, and yellow. Those VDC numbers should exceed
3.23, 4.87, and 11.7.

Only time a tester can properly test a power supply is under full
load. A power supply could have always been defective but not caused
failures for months. Some of these numbers could be too low (a
defective power supply) and computer would still boot and run today.
Only indication that the power supply was defective would be those
numbers - to find a defect today that would cause failures months from
now.

> On May 5, 9:08 am, Barkimmy <Barki...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> Thank you so much. I was wondering if it could be tested at
>> acomputerstore. But, I wasn't sure if I just had
>> 'generator/alternator' on the brain. My car is pissing on me as
>> well....lol
>
> Computer stores that use a power supply tester will not provide a
> useful answer. Best power supply test (and only one that will
> properly identify a defective supply without $hundreds in test
> equipment) means leaving everything unchanged inside the computer.
>
> Setup the system to access (multitask to) all peripherals
> simultaneously. Play complex graphics (ie a movie) while playing
> sound while searching the hard drive for files while downloading from
> the internet while reading a CD, etc. Now the power supply is ready
> to be tested.
>
> A 3.5 digit multimeter should measure one of each power supply wires
> - orange, red, purple, and yellow. Those VDC numbers should exceed
> 3.23, 4.87, and 11.7.
>
> Only time a tester can properly test a power supply is under full
> load. A power supply could have always been defective but not caused
> failures for months. Some of these numbers could be too low (a
> defective power supply) and computer would still boot and run today.
> Only indication that the power supply was defective would be those
> numbers - to find a defect today that would cause failures months from
> now.

Wow! I don't know where you got your education, but ... you need more!
This is nothing but balderdash spewed out without any means of
verification/clarification or backing of any kind, which can not be
forthcoming.
So, if 3.23 reads 6, and 4.87 reads 9, that OK by your standards,
right? You're missing so much and so fickle in your knowledge that you
need to go back to school or get a life!

He didn't say that, you did. Use common sense.
"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:uaXvc1LsIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> On May 5, 9:08 am, Barkimmy <Barki...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Thank you so much. I was wondering if it could be tested at
>>> acomputerstore. But, I wasn't sure if I just had
>>> 'generator/alternator' on the brain. My car is pissing on me as
>>> well....lol
>>
>> Computer stores that use a power supply tester will not provide a
>> useful answer. Best power supply test (and only one that will
>> properly identify a defective supply without $hundreds in test
>> equipment) means leaving everything unchanged inside the computer.
>>
>> Setup the system to access (multitask to) all peripherals
>> simultaneously. Play complex graphics (ie a movie) while playing
>> sound while searching the hard drive for files while downloading from
>> the internet while reading a CD, etc. Now the power supply is ready
>> to be tested.
>>
>> A 3.5 digit multimeter should measure one of each power supply wires
>> - orange, red, purple, and yellow. Those VDC numbers should exceed
>> 3.23, 4.87, and 11.7.
>>
>> Only time a tester can properly test a power supply is under full
>> load. A power supply could have always been defective but not caused
>> failures for months. Some of these numbers could be too low (a
>> defective power supply) and computer would still boot and run today.
>> Only indication that the power supply was defective would be those
>> numbers - to find a defect today that would cause failures months from
>> now.
>
> Wow! I don't know where you got your education, but ... you need more!
> This is nothing but balderdash spewed out without any means of
> verification/clarification or backing of any kind, which can not be
> forthcoming.
> So, if 3.23 reads 6, and 4.87 reads 9, that OK by your standards, right?
> You're missing so much and so fickle in your knowledge that you need to go
> back to school or get a life!
>