Seeking ways to free up disc space. Please help

I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
files but still getting a message " low on disc space".

I have 519MB left out of 40GB.

Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?

First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.

You can also free up more disk space by reducing
the number of 'System Restore' points:
Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
click on the System Restore tab.
Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C,
Then click on the Setting button
Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.

Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it enabled):
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
and:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx

Next if you still need more space:
Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of folders
and delete the older updates.
As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
Explorer.
Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
Also See the following web pages on this issue:
http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm

Finally - You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
Just follow the instructs but instead of increasing the size (as stated in
the article) decrease it.

If you have more than one partition or drive then:
How to Change the Default Location of Mail and News Folders:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/175037

Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder
(Example: move it to the D drive)
See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310147
Also:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/how_..._documents.htm

How to move the Spool folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q308666

JS

<attillathehun@mongol.com> wrote in message
news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com...
>I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>
> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>
> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?

Excepting Disk Cleanup probably wont run with that little free space,
generally 15% free space is required

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:Owpag2h2IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
> Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.
>
> You can also free up more disk space by reducing
> the number of 'System Restore' points:
> Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
> click on the System Restore tab.
> Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C,
> Then click on the Setting button
> Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
> left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
> This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.
>
> Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it enabled):
> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
> and:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx
>
> Next if you still need more space:
> Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
> These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
> however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
> update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
> I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of folders
> and delete the older updates.
> As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
> These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
> like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
> They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
> Explorer.
> Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
> Also See the following web pages on this issue:
> http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm
>
> Finally - You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
> How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
> Just follow the instructs but instead of increasing the size (as stated in
> the article) decrease it.
>
> If you have more than one partition or drive then:
> How to Change the Default Location of Mail and News Folders:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/175037
>
> Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder
> (Example: move it to the D drive)
> See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310147
> Also:
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/how_..._documents.htm
>
> How to move the Spool folder in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q308666
>
> JS
>
> <attillathehun@mongol.com> wrote in message
> news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com...
>>I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
>> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
>> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>>
>> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>>
>> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?
>
>

Well if there is a problem using Disk Cleanup then try CCleaner as a tool to
remove Internet history info, cookies, temp files, auto complete and other
junk. In the 'Windows' tab listing check the item types you want deleted.
Also available is customization, see Options/Custom to add any
other/additional folders you want files deleted from.

http://www.ccleaner.com/

JS


"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:uZR3MCi2IHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Excepting Disk Cleanup probably wont run with that little free space,
> generally 15% free space is required
>
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:Owpag2h2IHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> First use Windows 'Disk Cleanup' to create more space on your C: drive.
>> Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>>
>> Next: Empty the Recycle Bin.
>>
>> You can also free up more disk space by reducing
>> the number of 'System Restore' points:
>> Select Start/Control Panel/System, then in the System Properties window
>> click on the System Restore tab.
>> Next select the drive letter where Windows is installed (usually C,
>> Then click on the Setting button
>> Now in the Drive Settings window move the Disk space usage slider to the
>> left to reduce the amount of drive space System Restore points will use.
>> This will remove some of the older restore points and free up some space.
>>
>> Disable Hibernation and delete hiberfil.sys file (If you have it
>> enabled):
>> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/1...-xp-and-vista/
>> and:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...hibernate.mspx
>>
>> Next if you still need more space:
>> Remove the files used to uninstall updates to Windows
>> These folders and associated files in these folders are safe to remove,
>> however once deleted you will no longer be able to un-install a patch or
>> update that was associated with the deleted folder/files.
>> I would keep the most recent set (last two months just in case) of
>> folders
>> and delete the older updates.
>> As a safety net I burned these folders to a CD before deleting them.
>> These files are located in the Windows folder and have folder names
>> like $NtUninstallKBXXXXXX$.
>> They are hidden folders so enable viewing of hidden files in Windows
>> Explorer.
>> Warning: One folder you should not delete is: $hf_mig$
>> Also See the following web pages on this issue:
>> http://www.pagestart.com/ntuninstall.html
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_hotfix_backup.htm
>>
>> Finally - You can reduce the size of the Internet Explorer Disk Cache:
>> How and Why to Clear Your Cache:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...learcache.mspx
>> Just follow the instructs but instead of increasing the size (as stated
>> in
>> the article) decrease it.
>>
>> If you have more than one partition or drive then:
>> How to Change the Default Location of Mail and News Folders:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/175037
>>
>> Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder
>> (Example: move it to the D drive)
>> See: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310147
>> Also:
>> http://www.techsupportalert.com/how_..._documents.htm
>>
>> How to move the Spool folder in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q308666
>>
>> JS
>>
>> <attillathehun@mongol.com> wrote in message
>> news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com...
>>>I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
>>> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
>>> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>>>
>>> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>>>
>>> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?
>>
>>
>
>

"attillathehun@mongol.com" in
<news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com > wrote:

> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>
> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>
> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?

Learn to cross-post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

A point not made is that N multiposted copies will consume N times the
disk space for each of the separate copies of the same post.
Crossposted messages have just *one* copy on the server with links in
the newsgroups back to the same single copy. Multiposting wastes disk
space on the server. Yes, your post may be small but remember that you
consume N times the space on one server and then do so again on all the
newsgroups servers worldwide. You waste more bandwidth getting N copies
of your multiposted message distributed to all the newsgroups servers
worldwide. Cross-posting has just one copy of the message on an NNTP
server, and only one copy gets propagated to other NNTP servers.

To those visiting the newsgroups, crossposting helps them see ALL the
replies from those in the other RELATED newsgroup to which you linked
your post. That way, they don't waste their time duplicating similar
replies.

Don't cross-post to more groups than needed if at all. Many consider
cross-posting to more than 4 groups as rude and may filter out your
post. The more groups you add, the less likely that they are related,
the less accurate or focused are the targeted groups, or some of the
included groups may already encompassed by another included but more
general group. If the are subgroups under a topic, choose whether you
will be specific or general in the targeted groups to which you post.
Don't go shotgunning your post across multiple groups trying to capture
as large an audience as possible as you will offend netizens with your
poor aim.

My apologies. I only put the post on three specific groups that I
thought people would see and be of help; I didn't think many people
would subscribe to all the microsoft Xp groups. I have received
different pieces of advice in different groups because of the
different person's background and most grateful to people sharing
their help with me.

Many thanks for pointing this out to me about cross posting.

Sorry that you may not be able to help me with my specific request and
sorry if I have offended or taken up more disc space in the process.


On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:19:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>"attillathehun@mongol.com" in
><news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.co m> wrote:
>
>> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
>> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
>> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>>
>> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>>
>> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?
>
>Learn to cross-post:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html
>
>A point not made is that N multiposted copies will consume N times the
>disk space for each of the separate copies of the same post.
>Crossposted messages have just *one* copy on the server with links in
>the newsgroups back to the same single copy. Multiposting wastes disk
>space on the server. Yes, your post may be small but remember that you
>consume N times the space on one server and then do so again on all the
>newsgroups servers worldwide. You waste more bandwidth getting N copies
>of your multiposted message distributed to all the newsgroups servers
>worldwide. Cross-posting has just one copy of the message on an NNTP
>server, and only one copy gets propagated to other NNTP servers.
>
>To those visiting the newsgroups, crossposting helps them see ALL the
>replies from those in the other RELATED newsgroup to which you linked
>your post. That way, they don't waste their time duplicating similar
>replies.
>
>Don't cross-post to more groups than needed if at all. Many consider
>cross-posting to more than 4 groups as rude and may filter out your
>post. The more groups you add, the less likely that they are related,
>the less accurate or focused are the targeted groups, or some of the
>included groups may already encompassed by another included but more
>general group. If the are subgroups under a topic, choose whether you
>will be specific or general in the targeted groups to which you post.
>Don't go shotgunning your post across multiple groups trying to capture
>as large an audience as possible as you will offend netizens with your
>poor aim.

Free up some disk space . You should have at least 20% free.

If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.

The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
history is held.

The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System
Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to
existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is
written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file.

The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large.
Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to
overwrite.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us



--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






attillathehun@mongol.com wrote:
> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>
> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>
> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?

<attillathehun@mongol.com> wrote in message
news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com...

> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>
> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>
> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?

Answer is no, assuming you have done the obvious things,
i.e. DELete c:\temp\*.*, Internet History, empty Recycled Bin
and so on.

But hard drives are now so cheap you might as well get a
second hard drive suiitable to your needs: external connecting
via USB if you are paranoid about backups, e.g. want to clone
all C:\ and keep the backup in a separate room or building.

But you will first want to remove bulky data files (e.g. music
or video) to the new drive, because Windows requires at
least 10 per cent drivespace free to run efficiently, i.e.
5 Gb out of 40 Gb drivespace.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Have you figured out how to cross post? It's easy using Outlook Express
but I see you are using Forte Agent. I am not you can cross posting
using Forte Agent


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


attillathehun@mongol.com wrote:
> My apologies. I only put the post on three specific groups that I
> thought people would see and be of help; I didn't think many people
> would subscribe to all the microsoft Xp groups. I have received
> different pieces of advice in different groups because of the
> different person's background and most grateful to people sharing
> their help with me.
>
> Many thanks for pointing this out to me about cross posting.
>
> Sorry that you may not be able to help me with my specific request and
> sorry if I have offended or taken up more disc space in the process.
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:19:13 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>> "attillathehun@mongol.com" in
>> <news:ltmf64df7jrl9llr8jhvmha92tqhgg0ae6@4ax.com > wrote:
>>
>>> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
>>> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
>>> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>>>
>>> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>>>
>>> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?
>>
>> Learn to cross-post:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html
>>
>> A point not made is that N multiposted copies will consume N times
>> the disk space for each of the separate copies of the same post.
>> Crossposted messages have just *one* copy on the server with links in
>> the newsgroups back to the same single copy. Multiposting wastes
>> disk space on the server. Yes, your post may be small but remember
>> that you consume N times the space on one server and then do so
>> again on all the newsgroups servers worldwide. You waste more
>> bandwidth getting N copies of your multiposted message distributed
>> to all the newsgroups servers worldwide. Cross-posting has just one
>> copy of the message on an NNTP server, and only one copy gets
>> propagated to other NNTP servers.
>>
>> To those visiting the newsgroups, crossposting helps them see ALL the
>> replies from those in the other RELATED newsgroup to which you linked
>> your post. That way, they don't waste their time duplicating similar
>> replies.
>>
>> Don't cross-post to more groups than needed if at all. Many consider
>> cross-posting to more than 4 groups as rude and may filter out your
>> post. The more groups you add, the less likely that they are
>> related, the less accurate or focused are the targeted groups, or
>> some of the included groups may already encompassed by another
>> included but more general group. If the are subgroups under a
>> topic, choose whether you will be specific or general in the
>> targeted groups to which you post. Don't go shotgunning your post
>> across multiple groups trying to capture as large an audience as
>> possible as you will offend netizens with your poor aim.

attillathehun@mongol.com wrote:
> I am using Windows XP on my computer and running very low on disc
> space. I've run "Disc cleanup" and checked on any hidden internet
> files but still getting a message " low on disc space".
>
> I have 519MB left out of 40GB.
>
> Are there ways to gain back disc space? Any free programs to use?



A primary space waster within each user profile would be IE's
penchant for storing copies (or significant portions thereof) of nearly
every web page you've ever visited. Try reducing the amount of
temporary Internet files cached, which is huge by default. I always
reduce it to a maximum of 50 Mb. In Internet Explorer, click Tools >
Internet Options > General, Temporary Files > Settings.

Same principle for the Java cache. Start > Control Panel > Java >
Temporary Internet Files > Settings.

The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System
Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By
default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for
storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for
this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start > All Programs >
Accessories > System Tools > System Restore > System Restore Settings,
select the pertinent partition and click Settings. If you don't want to
use System Restore at all, and have some other backup/recovery mechanism
in place, simply turn off the System Restore feature (Start > All
Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore, System Restore
Settings) and reboot. This will delete all of your Restore Points,
freeing up the hard drive space.

Another great waster of space can be the Recycle Bin. By default,
this takes up to 10% of your hard drive capacity. On today's large hard
drives, this is tremendously wasteful. (It's even more wasteful,
relatively speaking, on the tiny drive you have.) It can be set to a
lower limit by right-clicking the desktop Recycle Bin icon, selecting
Properties, and using the slider bar to lower the maximum size to
something more reasonable -- 1% to 2% should be more than enough space.


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