Windows XP on 2 machines???

I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and it's
past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP. Can
I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?

No

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"Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and it's
>past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP.
>Can I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and it's
> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP. Can
> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?


No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
computer.

There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.

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Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I then
put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do that
with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not trying to be
rude... I just don't understand.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and it's
>> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP.
>> Can
>> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
>
>
> No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
> computer.
>
> There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
> effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
> thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Sometimes they slip by the Authentification process...and you can register
and all.
What surprises me is the fact that you were able to load a Gateway CD onto
another compute...oh wait you did not say if the XP CD came with the Gateway
nor what Computer you actually put it on..
Anyways...most of the NEW systems purchased nowadays that have Vista
Preinstalled do not have XP drivers available from the Company....So it's a
50..50 chance if it actually would work..even with a legal copy of XP..
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"Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I
> then put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do
> that with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not
> trying to be rude... I just don't understand.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:jufqv3pl8v2g6fqjtnl376h6vojtp1rfi9@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and
>>> it's
>>> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP.
>>> Can
>>> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
>>
>>
>> No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
>> computer.
>>
>> There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
>> effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
>> thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I then
> put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do that
> with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not trying to be
> rude... I just don't understand.


It sometimes happens. Just because you are able to get away with a
violation of the rules doesn't mean that the rules aren't in effect.

To mention an *extreme* example, some people get away with robbing
banks, but that doesn't mean that robbing banks is therefore legal.





> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:jufqv3pl8v2g6fqjtnl376h6vojtp1rfi9@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and it's
> >> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows XP.
> >> Can
> >> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
> >
> >
> > No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
> > computer.
> >
> > There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
> > effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
> > thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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Ken, I have enough Microsoft licenses to cover each computer in my home. By
downgrading to Windows XP, I will be UNinstalling Vista, so this is not a
case of "robbing" anyone, i.e., Microsoft.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:g2qqv3hq9d7h9j0rnni8482ge1crb6cnnr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I
>> then
>> put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do that
>> with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not trying to
>> be
>> rude... I just don't understand.
>
>
> It sometimes happens. Just because you are able to get away with a
> violation of the rules doesn't mean that the rules aren't in effect.
>
> To mention an *extreme* example, some people get away with robbing
> banks, but that doesn't mean that robbing banks is therefore legal.
>
>
>
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:jufqv3pl8v2g6fqjtnl376h6vojtp1rfi9@4ax.com...
>> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and
>> >> it's
>> >> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows
>> >> XP.
>> >> Can
>> >> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
>> >
>> >
>> > No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
>> > computer.
>> >
>> > There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
>> > effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
>> > thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Editor wrote:
> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE
> and it's past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway
> with Windows XP. Can I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my
> new Dell?

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
> computer.
>
> There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been
> in effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1.
> The only thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement
> mechanism.

Editor wrote:
> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer.
> I then put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I
> able to do that with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it
> again? I'm not trying to be rude... I just don't understand.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> It sometimes happens. Just because you are able to get away with a
> violation of the rules doesn't mean that the rules aren't in effect.
>
> To mention an *extreme* example, some people get away with robbing
> banks, but that doesn't mean that robbing banks is therefore legal.

Editor wrote:
> Ken, I have enough Microsoft licenses to cover each computer in my
> home. By downgrading to Windows XP, I will be UNinstalling Vista,
> so this is not a case of "robbing" anyone, i.e., Microsoft.

Just because you have a license for Windows Vista does not mean you can
forgo using Vista and decide to downgrade *magically* to Windows XP anbd use
the Windows Vista license to cover that. Now if you mean you have as many
Windows XP licenses as you need to install it on each of your computers (not
other Microsoft licenses - like Vista or Office or whatever) - then ignore
the rest...

Yes - it is software and technically speaking - you can get away with things
that are built/managed like software has to be because of the nature of how
easy it is to copy/etc that you could not get away with using other
products - but that does not mean that you are in the right because it is
easier to do without being caught or because you feel you can justify it
because you paid your money (even if it was for another product) and you
just want satisfaction...

If you go out and purchase a 1.5 million dollar home in a neighborhood that
is empty of people (but has houses all in it - all built by the same people,
all owned by the same bank...) - you cannot just decide to move into the 1.2
million dollar home across the street because you like the layout better
without going through the process of selling the 1.5 million dollar home and
buying the 1.2 million dollar home.

You bought the right to use Windows Vista and just because you decide not to
use that does not give you the right to use some other product from the
manufacturer (Microsoft) for no cost... Now you may have bought downgrade
rights from Dell - but you need to contact them to get the proper
media/license going - and yes - they sell such a thing with their systems...

But - you do whatever your moral code allows you to do. I don't know you
and don't really care in the end how you live your life. ;-)

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:21:02 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Ken, I have enough Microsoft licenses to cover each computer in my home. By
> downgrading to Windows XP, I will be UNinstalling Vista, so this is not a
> case of "robbing" anyone, i.e., Microsoft.


The question is not about "Microsoft" licenses, it's about Windows XP
licenses. If you have sufficient Windows XP licenses of the correct
type, then you are legal. If you do not, you are in violation of the
EULA. If you are in violation of the EULA, Microsoft has the option of
taking legal action against you, if it finds out; that's probably
unlikely, but it's not impossible.


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:g2qqv3hq9d7h9j0rnni8482ge1crb6cnnr@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I
> >> then
> >> put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do that
> >> with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not trying to
> >> be
> >> rude... I just don't understand.
> >
> >
> > It sometimes happens. Just because you are able to get away with a
> > violation of the rules doesn't mean that the rules aren't in effect.
> >
> > To mention an *extreme* example, some people get away with robbing
> > banks, but that doesn't mean that robbing banks is therefore legal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> >> news:jufqv3pl8v2g6fqjtnl376h6vojtp1rfi9@4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE and
> >> >> it's
> >> >> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows
> >> >> XP.
> >> >> Can
> >> >> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
> >> > computer.
> >> >
> >> > There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
> >> > effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
> >> > thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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Thank you very much for the information, Ken.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:21:02 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken, I have enough Microsoft licenses to cover each computer in my home.
>> By
>> downgrading to Windows XP, I will be UNinstalling Vista, so this is not a
>> case of "robbing" anyone, i.e., Microsoft.
>
>
> The question is not about "Microsoft" licenses, it's about Windows XP
> licenses. If you have sufficient Windows XP licenses of the correct
> type, then you are legal. If you do not, you are in violation of the
> EULA. If you are in violation of the EULA, Microsoft has the option of
> taking legal action against you, if it finds out; that's probably
> unlikely, but it's not impossible.
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:g2qqv3hq9d7h9j0rnni8482ge1crb6cnnr@4ax.com...
>> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I'm confused then. Windows XP came on my husband's computer. I
>> >> then
>> >> put it on my computer, since I had Windows 98. How was I able to do
>> >> that
>> >> with no problem? And, if so, why can't I do it again? I'm not trying
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> rude... I just don't understand.
>> >
>> >
>> > It sometimes happens. Just because you are able to get away with a
>> > violation of the rules doesn't mean that the rules aren't in effect.
>> >
>> > To mention an *extreme* example, some people get away with robbing
>> > banks, but that doesn't mean that robbing banks is therefore legal.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> >> news:jufqv3pl8v2g6fqjtnl376h6vojtp1rfi9@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:30:08 -0400, "Editor" <turbowicz@hotmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I just bought a new Dell with Vista. Vista is driving me INSANE
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> past the 3 week return date. My husband has a Gateway with Windows
>> >> >> XP.
>> >> >> Can
>> >> >> I reformat and use his Windows XP CD on my new Dell?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > No. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
>> >> > computer.
>> >> >
>> >> > There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been
>> >> > in
>> >> > effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The
>> >> > only
>> >> > thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
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