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Old 05-27-2008, 10:27 AM
Terry Pinnell
 
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TweakUI Auto logon
On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.

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Old 05-27-2008, 01:01 PM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:

>On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.


Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.


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Old 05-27-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:

> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>>On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>>automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>>get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>>5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.

>
> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.


Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon, tick the
box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's
worked for me (but having just opened TUI to check...!).
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
Why not simply set win to auto logon

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
> automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
> get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
> 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK



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Old 05-28-2008, 01:55 PM
Twayne
 
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>
>> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>>> automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>>> get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>>> 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.

>>
>> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.

>
> Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon,
> tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK
> twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to
> check...!).


IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so
easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and
leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on
windows dialogs, for example.
TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and
isn't the right answer to these questions.



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Old 05-28-2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:55:49 -0400, Twayne wrote:

>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>>
>>> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>>>> automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>>>> get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>>> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>>>> 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.
>>>
>>> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.

>>
>> Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon,
>> tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK
>> twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to
>> check...!).

>
> IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so
> easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and
> leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on
> windows dialogs, for example.
> TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and
> isn't the right answer to these questions.


Yes, agreed, but a). I've never managed to get it to work and b). that
mean's I'm doing something wrong.
Please educate us so that we can do this properly.

Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:15 AM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in
news:qsis34tg13k9ci23re02ou77a1sukodm3o@4ax.com:

> "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700,
>>> Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have
>>>>> enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'.
>>>>> Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon
>>>>> screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>>>> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please?
>>>>> Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.
>>>>
>>>> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to
>>> Logon-Autologon, tick the box, then Set Password, leave
>>> the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's worked for me
>>> (but having just opened TUI to check...!).

>>
>>IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps


TweakUI is a MS product.

>> to do things
>>that are so easily done in the normal windows.


Almost NOTHING important is "easily done" in "normal" Windows.
That's why you need dozens of 3rd party apps to be able to use a
Windows machine at all, starting with a real file manager and
text editor.

(Although as I said, Tweak UI happens to be {a fairly useful}
Microsoft product which somehow slipped by.)

Can you print a directory's contents from a "normal" Windows
machine?

Right. And you never will, either.


>>It defeats
>>learnign one's system and leaves the user not knowing it
>>was a simple key click in their log on windows dialogs, for
>>example.
>> TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively,
>> really


Debatable, especially depending on who the user is.

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Old 05-29-2008, 06:29 AM
Terry Pinnell
 
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:

>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>>
>>> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>>>> automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>>>> get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>>> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>>>> 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.
>>>
>>> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.

>>
>> Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon,
>> tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK
>> twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to
>> check...!).

>
>IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so
>easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and
>leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on
>windows dialogs, for example.
> TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and
>isn't the right answer to these questions.
>
>

That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it
happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get
fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it
out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then
yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method.

But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From
elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The
advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel
and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login
problem." There's more info at
http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php

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Old 05-29-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
On Thu, 29 May 2008 07:29:43 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

> "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
>>>>> automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still
>>>>> get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked.
>>>>> Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in
>>>>> 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC.
>>>>
>>>> Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon,
>>> tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK
>>> twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to
>>> check...!).

>>
>>IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so
>>easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and
>>leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on
>>windows dialogs, for example.
>> TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and
>>isn't the right answer to these questions.
>>
>>

> That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it
> happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get
> fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it
> out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then
> yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method.
>
> But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From
> elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The
> advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel
> and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login
> problem." There's more info at
> http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php


That seems to be for dotNet 1; I have v2 and no account for it (with hidden
and system folders shown).
'Sticking' is the problem; I used TweakUI when I couldn't get autologon to
work (I hate having to 'log in' - boot and go is how I like it, so much so
that my preferred Linux distro is PCLOS as it will do this).
TweakUI wouldn't stick either, but I'd ignored the password part as I
didn't want one. After a couple boots which needed input I tried the blank
p/w - OK bit and it's stuck for over a week now.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:19 PM
Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov
 
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Re: TweakUI Auto logon
Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:

>That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it
>happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get
>fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it
>out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then
>yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method.
>
>But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From
>elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The
>advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel
>and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login
>problem." There's more info at
>http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php


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