ClearType Issue with Video Card

I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native resolution
(ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for one computer.
The font, letters all words come out real clear. However, the other
computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font on all words,
menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has this blurry text
is my problem.

Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
1680x1050.

Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?

If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest resolution
so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But they don't list
every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop for a video card
correct video card?

This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk much
about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of ClearType),
then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with something like
ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution instead of the various
resolution we use to be able to use with the old style monitors? I'm not
advocating the old monitors, just confused at technology that does not give
the customer more choices.

Thanks for letting me vent

Clear Type is set up on the Computer......not the monitor.
Native Resolution is not Clear Type.........a LCD monitors native resolution
is set at the Factory.
Clear Type is a small program that adjusts the font and as such it can be
turned OFF on the system that does not need it...test it.
or maybe it needs to be turned on???

peter

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"Vent" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
> purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
> resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for
> one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear. However,
> the other computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font on
> all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has this
> blurry text is my problem.
>
> Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
> not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
> required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
> 1680x1050.
>
> Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
>
> If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest resolution
> so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But they don't
> list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop for a video
> card correct video card?
>
> This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
> much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
> ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
> something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
> instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
> style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
> technology that does not give the customer more choices.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent
>
>

"Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?"

Yes. You need a video card that supports the native resolution of your
monitor.

It's not correct that "you're forced to use one single resolution
(because of ClearType)." ClearType has nothing to do with the resolution
you use. And you're not 'forced' to use any resolution.

LCD monitors have what is known as a 'native resolution' which
corresponds to the number of physical pixels in the panel. The monitor
can display other resolutions, but those resolutions are being
interpolated, so the image can look fuzzy. That's why it's always best
to run an LCD monitor at its native resolution.

[If the native resolution is too small to be comfortable you can get
screen magnification software. For me, reading glasses are sufficient -
for now. :-) ]

ClearType is a font-smoothing utility. Because the pixels in an LCD
monitor are square (or rectangular), text can appear jagged (like a
stairway.) Font-smoothing software makes the letters look 'smooth'. It
works equally well at all LCD resolutions.

When shopping for a video card, check to see if it supports your
monitors native resolution exactly. You may have to check with a card's
tech support, because some cards will support resolutions that aren't on
their 'official' list.

---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Vent wrote:
> I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
> purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
> resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for
> one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear. However,
> the other computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font
> on all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has
> this blurry text is my problem.
>
> Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that
> is not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution
> than required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact
> resolution of 1680x1050.
>
> Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
>
> If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest
> resolution so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But
> they don't list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one
> shop for a video card correct video card?
>
> This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
> much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
> ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
> something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
> instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
> style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
> technology that does not give the customer more choices.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent
>
>

Then let me start over based on what I+IBk-ve already posted. Computer 1 and
computer 2 both display very blurry text in just about everything you can
imagine. When I found out about ClearType and my Native Resolution
1680x1050+ICY- this is what I did.

Computer one: I had to turn ClearType on and change the resolution to
1680x1050. The text cleared up and I don+IBk-t mine that high of a resolution
since I+IBk-m use to it. Computer one is okay as long as BOTH settings are met.

Computer two: It don sent+IBk- matter if ClearType is turn on or off. I can+IBk-t
get resolution 1680x1050 but my card supports resolution higher (and of
course lowers). So my text remains blurry in everything I do regardless of
the ClearType setting.

Based on what you telling me+ICY- I should shop for a Video Card that exactly
supports Resolution 1680x1050. Is this correct?

If so, then buying this LCD has limited me too a single resolution. That
does not sound good.

Thanks for you quick response.



+ACI-Leonard Grey+ACI- +ADw-l.grey+AEA-not.valid.net+AD4- wrote in message
news:u6oW41a0IHA.4572+AEA-TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
+AD4- +ACI-Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?+ACI-
+AD4-
+AD4- Yes. You need a video card that supports the native resolution of your
+AD4- monitor.
+AD4-
+AD4- It's not correct that +ACI-you're forced to use one single resolution (because
+AD4- of ClearType).+ACI- ClearType has nothing to do with the resolution you use.
+AD4- And you're not 'forced' to use any resolution.
+AD4-
+AD4- LCD monitors have what is known as a 'native resolution' which corresponds
+AD4- to the number of physical pixels in the panel. The monitor can display
+AD4- other resolutions, but those resolutions are being interpolated, so the
+AD4- image can look fuzzy. That's why it's always best to run an LCD monitor at
+AD4- its native resolution.
+AD4-
+AD4- +AFs-If the native resolution is too small to be comfortable you can get
+AD4- screen magnification software. For me, reading glasses are sufficient -
+AD4- for now. :-) +AF0-
+AD4-
+AD4- ClearType is a font-smoothing utility. Because the pixels in an LCD
+AD4- monitor are square (or rectangular), text can appear jagged (like a
+AD4- stairway.) Font-smoothing software makes the letters look 'smooth'. It
+AD4- works equally well at all LCD resolutions.
+AD4-
+AD4- When shopping for a video card, check to see if it supports your monitors
+AD4- native resolution exactly. You may have to check with a card's tech
+AD4- support, because some cards will support resolutions that aren't on their
+AD4- 'official' list.
+AD4-
+AD4- ---
+AD4- Leonard Grey
+AD4- Errare humanum est
+AD4-
+AD4- Vent wrote:
+AD4APg- I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
+AD4APg- purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
+AD4APg- resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for
+AD4APg- one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear. However,
+AD4APg- the other computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font
+AD4APg- on all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has
+AD4APg- this blurry text is my problem.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
+AD4APg- not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
+AD4APg- required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
+AD4APg- 1680x1050.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest
+AD4APg- resolution so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But
+AD4APg- they don't list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop
+AD4APg- for a video card correct video card?
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
+AD4APg- much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
+AD4APg- ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
+AD4APg- something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
+AD4APg- instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
+AD4APg- style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
+AD4APg- technology that does not give the customer more choices.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Thanks for letting me vent
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg-

makes no diff on computer 2. Computer 1 seems to req. ClearType on and
resolution 1650x1080

+ACI-peter+ACI- +ADw-peterk+AEA-nowhere.net+AD4- wrote in message
news:97B56739-0951-4BDA-A8E5-047095F30136+AEA-microsoft.com...
+AD4- Clear Type is set up on the Computer......not the monitor.
+AD4- Native Resolution is not Clear Type.........a LCD monitors native
+AD4- resolution is set at the Factory.
+AD4- Clear Type is a small program that adjusts the font and as such it can be
+AD4- turned OFF on the system that does not need it...test it.
+AD4- or maybe it needs to be turned on???
+AD4-
+AD4- peter
+AD4-
+AD4- --
+AD4- DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
+AD4- offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
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+AD4- me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... +ADs--)
+AD4-
+AD4-
+AD4- +ACI-Vent+ACI- +ADw-someone+AEA-somewhere.com+AD4- wrote in message
+AD4- news:chi6k.45547+ACQ-Xu2.19916+AEA-trnddc04...
+AD4APg- I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
+AD4APg- purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
+AD4APg- resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for
+AD4APg- one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear. However,
+AD4APg- the other computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font
+AD4APg- on all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has
+AD4APg- this blurry text is my problem.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
+AD4APg- not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
+AD4APg- required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
+AD4APg- 1680x1050.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest
+AD4APg- resolution so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But
+AD4APg- they don't list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop
+AD4APg- for a video card correct video card?
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
+AD4APg- much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
+AD4APg- ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
+AD4APg- something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
+AD4APg- instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
+AD4APg- style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
+AD4APg- technology that does not give the customer more choices.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Thanks for letting me vent
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg-

"Based on what you telling me+ICY- I should shop for a Video Card that
exactly supports Resolution 1680x1050. Is this correct?"

Correct

"If so, then buying this LCD has limited me too a single resolution.
That does not sound good."

That is how LCD monitors are designed to work.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Vent wrote:
> Then let me start over based on what I+IBk-ve already posted. Computer 1
> and computer 2 both display very blurry text in just about everything
> you can imagine. When I found out about ClearType and my Native
> Resolution 1680x1050+ICY- this is what I did.
>
> Computer one: I had to turn ClearType on and change the resolution to
> 1680x1050. The text cleared up and I don+IBk-t mine that high of a
> resolution since I+IBk-m use to it. Computer one is okay as long as BOTH
> settings are met.
>
> Computer two: It don sent+IBk- matter if ClearType is turn on or off. I
> can+IBk-t get resolution 1680x1050 but my card supports resolution higher
> (and of course lowers). So my text remains blurry in everything I do
> regardless of the ClearType setting.
>
> Based on what you telling me+ICY- I should shop for a Video Card that
> exactly supports Resolution 1680x1050. Is this correct?
>
> If so, then buying this LCD has limited me too a single resolution.
> That does not sound good.
>
> Thanks for you quick response.
>
>
>
> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey+AEA-not.valid.net> wrote in message
> news:u6oW41a0IHA.4572+AEA-TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?"
>>
>> Yes. You need a video card that supports the native resolution of your
>> monitor.
>>
>> It's not correct that "you're forced to use one single resolution
>> (because of ClearType)." ClearType has nothing to do with the
>> resolution you use. And you're not 'forced' to use any resolution.
>>
>> LCD monitors have what is known as a 'native resolution' which
>> corresponds to the number of physical pixels in the panel. The monitor
>> can display other resolutions, but those resolutions are being
>> interpolated, so the image can look fuzzy. That's why it's always best
>> to run an LCD monitor at its native resolution.
>>
>> [If the native resolution is too small to be comfortable you can get
>> screen magnification software. For me, reading glasses are sufficient
>> - for now. :-) ]
>>
>> ClearType is a font-smoothing utility. Because the pixels in an LCD
>> monitor are square (or rectangular), text can appear jagged (like a
>> stairway.) Font-smoothing software makes the letters look 'smooth'. It
>> works equally well at all LCD resolutions.
>>
>> When shopping for a video card, check to see if it supports your
>> monitors native resolution exactly. You may have to check with a
>> card's tech support, because some cards will support resolutions that
>> aren't on their 'official' list.
>>
>> ---
>> Leonard Grey
>> Errare humanum est
>>
>> Vent wrote:
>>> I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor.
>>> I purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
>>> resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay
>>> for one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear.
>>> However, the other computer will not run at this resolution,
>>> therefore, the font on all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The
>>> the computer that has this blurry text is my problem.
>>>
>>> Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but
>>> that is not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher
>>> resolution than required for the monitor but I can't set it for the
>>> exact resolution of 1680x1050.
>>>
>>> Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
>>>
>>> If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest
>>> resolution so that you can determine if that is the card you want.
>>> But they don't list every exact resolution you can get. So how does
>>> one shop for a video card correct video card?
>>>
>>> This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't
>>> talk much about. If your forced to use one single resolution
>>> (because of ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft
>>> come out with something like ClearType that forces you to use a
>>> single resolution instead of the various resolution we use to be able
>>> to use with the old style monitors? I'm not advocating the old
>>> monitors, just confused at technology that does not give the customer
>>> more choices.
>>>
>>> Thanks for letting me vent
>>>
>>>

"Vent" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:chi6k.45547$Xu2.19916@trnddc04...
>I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
>purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native resolution
>(ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for one computer.
>The font, letters all words come out real clear. However, the other
>computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font on all words,
>menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has this blurry text
>is my problem.
>
> Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
> not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
> required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
> 1680x1050.
>
> Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
>
> If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest resolution
> so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But they don't
> list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop for a video
> card correct video card?
>
> This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
> much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
> ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
> something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
> instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
> style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
> technology that does not give the customer more choices.
>
> Thanks for letting me vent
>
>

Have you checked the manufacturer's (computer and video card) for an updated
driver for your system? I purchased a flat screen that I wanted to install
on my computer with an older Nvidia card in it. I checked the drivers page
and downloaded a more recent driver that had the proper resolution for the
new monitor. This is one time that "if it isn't broken don't fix it" didn't
work. Wasn't broken but definitely needed fixing.

Check for the updated drivers.

Yes I have the latest drivers, but it still does not get the exact
resolution.
Thanks for your input.

"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:#P6SJml0IHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Vent" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:chi6k.45547$Xu2.19916@trnddc04...
>>I have two computers that uses the same keyboard, mouse and monitor. I
>>purchased a new monitor that is a SyncMaster 2053bw. The native
>>resolution (ClearType) for this monitor is 1680x1050. This is okay for
>>one computer. The font, letters all words come out real clear. However,
>>the other computer will not run at this resolution, therefore, the font on
>>all words, menus and so forth are blurry. The the computer that has this
>>blurry text is my problem.
>>
>> Now, I would like to say that the video card is not very good but that is
>> not the situation. I can actually go at a much higher resolution than
>> required for the monitor but I can't set it for the exact resolution of
>> 1680x1050.
>>
>> Does that mean my only choice is to get another video card?
>>
>> If this is the case, most video cards will report their highest
>> resolution so that you can determine if that is the card you want. But
>> they don't list every exact resolution you can get. So how does one shop
>> for a video card correct video card?
>>
>> This brings up a debate about Flat Screens that most people don't talk
>> much about. If your forced to use one single resolution (because of
>> ClearType), then aren't you limited? Why did Microsoft come out with
>> something like ClearType that forces you to use a single resolution
>> instead of the various resolution we use to be able to use with the old
>> style monitors? I'm not advocating the old monitors, just confused at
>> technology that does not give the customer more choices.
>>
>> Thanks for letting me vent
>>
>>
>
> Have you checked the manufacturer's (computer and video card) for an
> updated driver for your system? I purchased a flat screen that I wanted
> to install on my computer with an older Nvidia card in it. I checked the
> drivers page and downloaded a more recent driver that had the proper
> resolution for the new monitor. This is one time that "if it isn't broken
> don't fix it" didn't work. Wasn't broken but definitely needed fixing.
>
> Check for the updated drivers.