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Old 06-22-2008, 03:33 PM
El Cugino
 
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Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro?

Vince
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:47 PM
Leonard Grey
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
XP may not have drivers for your hardware.
You will lose all the software installed at the factory.
You will void your warranty.

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El Cugino wrote:
> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect if
> I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
> pro?
>
> Vince

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Old 06-22-2008, 09:05 PM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
El Cugino wrote:
> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with
> my XP pro?


- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume) licensed as an
OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you contacted the
manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they sell it with Windows XP
(many vendors are still selling computers with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at least checked their
web support and driver download pages to ensure they have drivers available
for Windows XP? (Motherboard chipset, video, sound, network, wireless,
bluetooth, etc...)

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Old 06-22-2008, 10:26 PM
John Callaway
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

JPC

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:24 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
<newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>El Cugino wrote:
>> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
>> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
>> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with
>> my XP pro?

>
>- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume) licensed as an
>OEM or retail version?
>
>- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you contacted the
>manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they sell it with Windows XP
>(many vendors are still selling computers with Windows XP at this time.)?
>
>- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
>support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at least checked their
>web support and driver download pages to ensure they have drivers available
>for Windows XP? (Motherboard chipset, video, sound, network, wireless,
>bluetooth, etc...)
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP


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Old 06-22-2008, 11:46 PM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
El Cugino wrote:
> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
> with my XP pro?


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>
> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>
> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)


John Callaway wrote:
> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
> drive/drives for your data.


John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted this in
the incorrect place?

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MS-MVP
--
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:15 AM
John Callaway
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:46:52 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
<newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:

>El Cugino wrote:
>> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
>> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
>> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
>> with my XP pro?

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
>> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>>
>> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
>> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
>> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
>> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>>
>> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
>> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
>> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
>> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
>> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
>> drive/drives for your data.

>
>John,
>
>I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted this in
>the incorrect place?
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP


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Old 06-23-2008, 02:41 AM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
El Cugino wrote:
> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
> with my XP pro?


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>
> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>
> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)


John Callaway wrote:
> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
> drive/drives for your data.


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> John,
>
> I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
> this in the incorrect place?


John Callaway wrote:
> If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
> load your XP OS, then your drivers.


Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of the entire
thing/component parts at least) then the "partition commander" thing is
unnecessary - as they can partition with the Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to perform a
clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop - which would require no
special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any drivers the hardware might
require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting - as I
still cannot connect what you are saying to the original question nor my
initial set of questions for the OP. Merely curious...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old 06-23-2008, 08:39 PM
John Callaway
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
Your question "What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you use
xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

JPC

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:41:59 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
<newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:

>El Cugino wrote:
>> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
>> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
>> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
>> with my XP pro?

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
>> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>>
>> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
>> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
>> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
>> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>>
>> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
>> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
>> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
>> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
>> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
>> drive/drives for your data.

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
>> this in the incorrect place?

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
>> load your XP OS, then your drivers.

>
>Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?
>
>If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of the entire
>thing/component parts at least) then the "partition commander" thing is
>unnecessary - as they can partition with the Windows XP boot CD.
>
>They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to perform a
>clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop - which would require no
>special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any drivers the hardware might
>require.
>
>That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting - as I
>still cannot connect what you are saying to the original question nor my
>initial set of questions for the OP. Merely curious...
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP


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Old 06-23-2008, 08:59 PM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
El Cugino wrote:
> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
> with my XP pro?


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>
> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>
> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)


John Callaway wrote:
> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
> drive/drives for your data.


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> John,
>
> I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
> this in the incorrect place?


John Callaway wrote:
> If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
> load your XP OS, then your drivers.


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?
>
> If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of
> the entire thing/component parts at least) then the "partition
> commander" thing is unnecessary - as they can partition with the
> Windows XP boot CD.
>
> They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to
> perform a clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop -
> which would require no special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any
> drivers the hardware might require.
>
> That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting -
> as I still cannot connect what you are saying to the original
> question nor my initial set of questions for the OP. Merely
> curious...


John Callaway wrote:
> Your question "What problems may I expect if
> I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my
> XP pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
> perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you
> use xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.


Possible issues (thus my questions and suggestions.):

- The hardware manufacturer may not support the components under a pre-vista
machine - so drivers may be difficult to find (if they exist.)

- The manufacturer may consider this (installing a different/unsupported OS)
to null-and-void of the warranty.

- The software that comes with the laptop may not come in an installable
medium other than a system restore feature (restoring the OS and
applications in one swoop.)

As for partitioning your disk for 'faster access' - not generally a factor.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old 06-24-2008, 10:11 PM
John Callaway
 
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Re: Downgrading from Vista to XP pro
With all due respect, it sounds like you addressed your question
thoroughly.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:59:20 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
<newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:

>El Cugino wrote:
>> I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
>> detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
>> if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
>> with my XP pro?

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> - Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
>> licensed as an OEM or retail version?
>>
>> - Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
>> contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
>> sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
>> with Windows XP at this time.)?
>>
>> - Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
>> see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
>> least checked their web support and driver download pages to
>> ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
>> chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
>> drive/drives for your data.

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
>> this in the incorrect place?

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
>> load your XP OS, then your drivers.

>
>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?
>>
>> If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of
>> the entire thing/component parts at least) then the "partition
>> commander" thing is unnecessary - as they can partition with the
>> Windows XP boot CD.
>>
>> They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to
>> perform a clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop -
>> which would require no special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any
>> drivers the hardware might require.
>>
>> That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting -
>> as I still cannot connect what you are saying to the original
>> question nor my initial set of questions for the OP. Merely
>> curious...

>
>John Callaway wrote:
>> Your question "What problems may I expect if
>> I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my
>> XP pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
>> perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you
>> use xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

>
>Possible issues (thus my questions and suggestions.):
>
>- The hardware manufacturer may not support the components under a pre-vista
>machine - so drivers may be difficult to find (if they exist.)
>
>- The manufacturer may consider this (installing a different/unsupported OS)
>to null-and-void of the warranty.
>
>- The software that comes with the laptop may not come in an installable
>medium other than a system restore feature (restoring the OS and
>applications in one swoop.)
>
>As for partitioning your disk for 'faster access' - not generally a factor.
>
>--
>Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP


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