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Re: Safely Remove Hardware? Does it turn off Power?
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01-23-2008, 01:11 AM
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware? Does it turn off Power?
This is interesting, I found that only Windows XP (it could've been the
hardware at the time) turned the light off. My copy of Vista doe not. I would
like to get Windows Vista to always switch the power (and thus light off)
when I undock the USB. How can I do this please.
..A.
"Jim Applebury" wrote:
> Thanks Again... Had a hard time finding a definitive answer.
> Take Care Jim
>
> "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
>
> > that is true for a device that is not externally powered. selective suspend
> > is something else entirely. selective suspend is when devices are turned
> > off after they have idled out (in very simple terms).
> >
> > d
> >
> > --
> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
> > newsgroup purposes only.
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >
> >
> > "Jim Applebury" <JimApplebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:BD429E60-9CEF-41E7-A1DD-9356F0B5EDB8@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks Doron,
> > > So I can report that when the light goes out on my USB flash drive that
> > > the
> > > power is off and only after a reinsertion does the power return?
> > > Is this refered to by "Selective Suspension of USB"?
> > > Thanks Again,
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> it depends on the bus. the underlying bus driver will turn the device
> > >> off.
> > >> it will be powered on when the device is restarted or if the device is
> > >> removed and reinserted.
> > >>
> > >> d
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
> > >> newsgroup purposes only.
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > >> rights.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Jim Applebury" <Jim Applebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >> message
> > >> news:1108BEA0-245F-4EE3-A13C-0BAA439A20E6@microsoft.com...
> > >> > I've been trying to research for our Computer Club whether or not the
> > >> > "Safely
> > >> > Remove Hardware" applet actually turns off the power to the device and
> > >> > if
> > >> > does, does it wait for the device to be physically removed before
> > >> > returning
> > >> > power to the port?
> > >> >
> > >> > I've noted the light on my USB flash drive goes out after sending the
> > >> > remove
> > >> > command which seems to support this. I've also seen reference to the
> > >> > D3
> > >> > power state when this command is sent but I've seen different D3 states
> > >> > referenced on hot-pluggable devices.
> > >> >
> > >> > I sure will appreciate any and all input.
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Jim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
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01-23-2008, 11:39 PM
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware? Does it turn off Power?
it will not turn off the light
d
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"Samuel" <Samuel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6A11BC92-3A53-4D8E-850F-B083A54471E1@microsoft.com...
> This is interesting, I found that only Windows XP (it could've been the
> hardware at the time) turned the light off. My copy of Vista doe not. I
> would
> like to get Windows Vista to always switch the power (and thus light off)
> when I undock the USB. How can I do this please.
>
> .A.
>
>
> "Jim Applebury" wrote:
>
>> Thanks Again... Had a hard time finding a definitive answer.
>> Take Care Jim
>>
>> "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
>>
>> > that is true for a device that is not externally powered. selective
>> > suspend
>> > is something else entirely. selective suspend is when devices are
>> > turned
>> > off after they have idled out (in very simple terms).
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> > --
>> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
>> > newsgroup purposes only.
>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > rights.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim Applebury" <JimApplebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:BD429E60-9CEF-41E7-A1DD-9356F0B5EDB8@microsoft.com...
>> > > Thanks Doron,
>> > > So I can report that when the light goes out on my USB flash drive
>> > > that
>> > > the
>> > > power is off and only after a reinsertion does the power return?
>> > > Is this refered to by "Selective Suspension of USB"?
>> > > Thanks Again,
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > > "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> it depends on the bus. the underlying bus driver will turn the
>> > >> device
>> > >> off.
>> > >> it will be powered on when the device is restarted or if the device
>> > >> is
>> > >> removed and reinserted.
>> > >>
>> > >> d
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
>> > >> newsgroup purposes only.
>> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > >> rights.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Jim Applebury" <Jim Applebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > >> message
>> > >> news:1108BEA0-245F-4EE3-A13C-0BAA439A20E6@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > I've been trying to research for our Computer Club whether or not
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > "Safely
>> > >> > Remove Hardware" applet actually turns off the power to the device
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > if
>> > >> > does, does it wait for the device to be physically removed before
>> > >> > returning
>> > >> > power to the port?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I've noted the light on my USB flash drive goes out after sending
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > remove
>> > >> > command which seems to support this. I've also seen reference to
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > D3
>> > >> > power state when this command is sent but I've seen different D3
>> > >> > states
>> > >> > referenced on hot-pluggable devices.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I sure will appreciate any and all input.
>> > >> > Thanks,
>> > >> > Jim
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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01-24-2008, 11:30 AM
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware? Does it turn off Power?
Sorry for it posting 4 times, I had trouble. All I would like to do is change
a setting that will make Vista switch the light off of the USB memory stick
when it is undocked - like XP used to. How would I do this please? There must
be a way.
"Doron Holan [MSFT]" wrote:
> it will not turn off the light
> d
>
> --
> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
> newsgroup purposes only.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> "Samuel" <Samuel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6A11BC92-3A53-4D8E-850F-B083A54471E1@microsoft.com...
> > This is interesting, I found that only Windows XP (it could've been the
> > hardware at the time) turned the light off. My copy of Vista doe not. I
> > would
> > like to get Windows Vista to always switch the power (and thus light off)
> > when I undock the USB. How can I do this please.
> >
> > .A.
> >
> >
> > "Jim Applebury" wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Again... Had a hard time finding a definitive answer.
> >> Take Care Jim
> >>
> >> "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > that is true for a device that is not externally powered. selective
> >> > suspend
> >> > is something else entirely. selective suspend is when devices are
> >> > turned
> >> > off after they have idled out (in very simple terms).
> >> >
> >> > d
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
> >> > newsgroup purposes only.
> >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> > rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Jim Applebury" <JimApplebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> > message
> >> > news:BD429E60-9CEF-41E7-A1DD-9356F0B5EDB8@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Thanks Doron,
> >> > > So I can report that when the light goes out on my USB flash drive
> >> > > that
> >> > > the
> >> > > power is off and only after a reinsertion does the power return?
> >> > > Is this refered to by "Selective Suspension of USB"?
> >> > > Thanks Again,
> >> > > Jim
> >> > >
> >> > > "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> it depends on the bus. the underlying bus driver will turn the
> >> > >> device
> >> > >> off.
> >> > >> it will be powered on when the device is restarted or if the device
> >> > >> is
> >> > >> removed and reinserted.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> d
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
> >> > >> newsgroup purposes only.
> >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> > >> rights.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Jim Applebury" <Jim Applebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> > >> message
> >> > >> news:1108BEA0-245F-4EE3-A13C-0BAA439A20E6@microsoft.com...
> >> > >> > I've been trying to research for our Computer Club whether or not
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > "Safely
> >> > >> > Remove Hardware" applet actually turns off the power to the device
> >> > >> > and
> >> > >> > if
> >> > >> > does, does it wait for the device to be physically removed before
> >> > >> > returning
> >> > >> > power to the port?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I've noted the light on my USB flash drive goes out after sending
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > remove
> >> > >> > command which seems to support this. I've also seen reference to
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > D3
> >> > >> > power state when this command is sent but I've seen different D3
> >> > >> > states
> >> > >> > referenced on hot-pluggable devices.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I sure will appreciate any and all input.
> >> > >> > Thanks,
> >> > >> > Jim
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
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01-28-2008, 11:11 PM
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware? Does it turn off Power?
no, there is no way
d
--
Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Samuel" <Samuel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A41DA100-0D4B-4FEE-B8E3-5BB3AB5ACC02@microsoft.com...
> Sorry for it posting 4 times, I had trouble. All I would like to do is
> change
> a setting that will make Vista switch the light off of the USB memory
> stick
> when it is undocked - like XP used to. How would I do this please? There
> must
> be a way.
>
> "Doron Holan [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> it will not turn off the light
>> d
>>
>> --
>> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
>> newsgroup purposes only.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>>
>> "Samuel" <Samuel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A11BC92-3A53-4D8E-850F-B083A54471E1@microsoft.com...
>> > This is interesting, I found that only Windows XP (it could've been the
>> > hardware at the time) turned the light off. My copy of Vista doe not. I
>> > would
>> > like to get Windows Vista to always switch the power (and thus light
>> > off)
>> > when I undock the USB. How can I do this please.
>> >
>> > .A.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim Applebury" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks Again... Had a hard time finding a definitive answer.
>> >> Take Care Jim
>> >>
>> >> "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > that is true for a device that is not externally powered. selective
>> >> > suspend
>> >> > is something else entirely. selective suspend is when devices are
>> >> > turned
>> >> > off after they have idled out (in very simple terms).
>> >> >
>> >> > d
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is for
>> >> > newsgroup purposes only.
>> >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> >> > rights.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jim Applebury" <JimApplebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> > news:BD429E60-9CEF-41E7-A1DD-9356F0B5EDB8@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Thanks Doron,
>> >> > > So I can report that when the light goes out on my USB flash drive
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > power is off and only after a reinsertion does the power return?
>> >> > > Is this refered to by "Selective Suspension of USB"?
>> >> > > Thanks Again,
>> >> > > Jim
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Doron Holan [MS]" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> it depends on the bus. the underlying bus driver will turn the
>> >> > >> device
>> >> > >> off.
>> >> > >> it will be powered on when the device is restarted or if the
>> >> > >> device
>> >> > >> is
>> >> > >> removed and reinserted.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> d
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. this alias is
>> >> > >> for
>> >> > >> newsgroup purposes only.
>> >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
>> >> > >> no
>> >> > >> rights.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Jim Applebury" <Jim Applebury@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >> > >> in
>> >> > >> message
>> >> > >> news:1108BEA0-245F-4EE3-A13C-0BAA439A20E6@microsoft.com...
>> >> > >> > I've been trying to research for our Computer Club whether or
>> >> > >> > not
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > "Safely
>> >> > >> > Remove Hardware" applet actually turns off the power to the
>> >> > >> > device
>> >> > >> > and
>> >> > >> > if
>> >> > >> > does, does it wait for the device to be physically removed
>> >> > >> > before
>> >> > >> > returning
>> >> > >> > power to the port?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I've noted the light on my USB flash drive goes out after
>> >> > >> > sending
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > remove
>> >> > >> > command which seems to support this. I've also seen reference
>> >> > >> > to
>> >> > >> > the
>> >> > >> > D3
>> >> > >> > power state when this command is sent but I've seen different
>> >> > >> > D3
>> >> > >> > states
>> >> > >> > referenced on hot-pluggable devices.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I sure will appreciate any and all input.
>> >> > >> > Thanks,
>> >> > >> > Jim
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
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