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Creating free space
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04-14-2008, 03:34 AM
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Creating free space
HI,
The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders ..
Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the remaining
bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create more
free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the name.
Thanks for any help,.
Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: Creating free space
What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there too, and
that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is close
to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
Ramesh wrote:
> HI,
>
> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders
> ..
> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
> remaining
> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create more
> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>
> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
> folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the name.
>
> Thanks for any help,.
>
> Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 04:13 AM
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Re: Creating free space
Thanks Bill.
I have already removed all the Temp Internet and Temp files. I am puzzled
because the Local Settings folder contains only 3 folders whose sizes total
to 80MB.
Plus there are these 375 Uninstall files in the Windows folder occupying
over 500MB of space.
Ramesh
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there too, and
> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is close
> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>
> Ramesh wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders
>> ..
>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>> remaining
>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create
>> more
>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>
>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
>> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
>> folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the
>> name.
>>
>> Thanks for any help,.
>>
>> Ramesh
>
>
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04-14-2008, 04:47 AM
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Re: Creating free space
From over here, I don't know why there is that discrepancy (assuming that
the root Local Settings folder doesn't have anything else in it except those
3 folders).
Ramesh wrote:
> Thanks Bill.
>
> I have already removed all the Temp Internet and Temp files. I am puzzled
> because the Local Settings folder contains only 3 folders whose sizes
> total
> to 80MB.
>
> Plus there are these 375 Uninstall files in the Windows folder occupying
> over 500MB of space.
>
> Ramesh
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there too,
>> and
>> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is
>> close
>> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>>
>> Ramesh wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders
>>> ..
>>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>>> remaining
>>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create
>>> more
>>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>>
>>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
>>> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
>>> folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the
>>> name.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,.
>>>
>>> Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 06:48 AM
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Re: Creating free space
Hi Bill,
Good point about Temp Internet files. The default setting is some
incredibly high percentage that I can't quite recall. Most recommendations
say to move the slider so you have say only 80 or 100 MB's of Temp storage.
The default setting was thought up when hard drives were *much smaller*.
--
Curt
http://dundats.mvps.org/
http://www.aumha.org/
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there too, and
> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is close
> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>
> Ramesh wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders
>> ..
>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>> remaining
>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create
>> more
>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>
>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
>> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
>> folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the
>> name.
>>
>> Thanks for any help,.
>>
>> Ramesh
>
>
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04-14-2008, 07:07 AM
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Re: Creating free space
I have mine set at 100 MB. I don't think making it bigger would
necessarily work better, as it may take just as long to search for, find,
and retrieve the files from a large TIF cache as it may getting it right off
the Net - so there is a tradeoff there. (Plus the larger it is, the more
open it is to some potential maintenance problems, I believe).
Curt Christianson wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Good point about Temp Internet files. The default setting is some
> incredibly high percentage that I can't quite recall. Most
> recommendations
> say to move the slider so you have say only 80 or 100 MB's of Temp
> storage.
> The default setting was thought up when hard drives were *much smaller*.
>
>
> --
>
> Curt
>
> http://dundats.mvps.org/
> http://www.aumha.org/
>
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there too,
>> and
>> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is
>> close
>> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>>
>> Ramesh wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3 subfolders
>>> ..
>>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>>> remaining
>>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to create
>>> more
>>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>>
>>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
>>> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all these
>>> folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going by the
>>> name.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,.
>>>
>>> Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 09:38 AM
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Re: Creating free space
Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
history is held.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bill in Co. wrote:
> I have mine set at 100 MB. I don't think making it bigger would
> necessarily work better, as it may take just as long to search for,
> find, and retrieve the files from a large TIF cache as it may getting
> it right off the Net - so there is a tradeoff there. (Plus the
> larger it is, the more open it is to some potential maintenance
> problems, I believe).
>
> Curt Christianson wrote:
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Good point about Temp Internet files. The default setting is some
>> incredibly high percentage that I can't quite recall. Most
>> recommendations
>> say to move the slider so you have say only 80 or 100 MB's of Temp
>> storage.
>> The default setting was thought up when hard drives were *much
>> smaller*. --
>>
>> Curt
>>
>> http://dundats.mvps.org/
>> http://www.aumha.org/
>>
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there
>>> too, and
>>> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total is
>>> close
>>> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>>>
>>> Ramesh wrote:
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3
>>>> subfolders ..
>>>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>>>> remaining
>>>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to
>>>> create more
>>>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>>>
>>>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in
>>>> the Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete
>>>> all these folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info
>>>> going by the name.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help,.
>>>>
>>>> Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: Creating free space
Ramesh
The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.
Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
You will have a Local Settings folder for each User Profile. As others
have said you will have a Temporary Internet Folder as well as the
others mentioned. You can use Disk CleanUp to remove unwanted files.
This should be part of your routine housekeeping procedures.
If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ramesh wrote:
> HI,
>
> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3
> subfolders .. Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB.
> Where are the remaining bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden
> files. I am trying to create more free space on that drive. Is
> there a way out?
> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all
> these folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going
> by the name.
> Thanks for any help,.
>
> Ramesh
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04-14-2008, 10:12 AM
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Re: Creating free space
The default allocation of 3% is per user so it becomes more significant
where a number of users share a computer.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gerry wrote:
> Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
> internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
> The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
> offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
> select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
> Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of
> days history is held.
>
>
>
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> I have mine set at 100 MB. I don't think making it bigger would
>> necessarily work better, as it may take just as long to search for,
>> find, and retrieve the files from a large TIF cache as it may getting
>> it right off the Net - so there is a tradeoff there. (Plus the
>> larger it is, the more open it is to some potential maintenance
>> problems, I believe).
>>
>> Curt Christianson wrote:
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Good point about Temp Internet files. The default setting is some
>>> incredibly high percentage that I can't quite recall. Most
>>> recommendations
>>> say to move the slider so you have say only 80 or 100 MB's of Temp
>>> storage.
>>> The default setting was thought up when hard drives were *much
>>> smaller*. --
>>>
>>> Curt
>>>
>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/
>>> http://www.aumha.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eSPp3OenIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> What about the Temporary Internet File folder? That's in there
>>>> too, and
>>>> that could be large too. And the History folder. My total
>>>> is close
>>>> to yours (300 MB), and LOTS of files (thousands).
>>>>
>>>> Ramesh wrote:
>>>>> HI,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3
>>>>> subfolders ..
>>>>> Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where are the
>>>>> remaining
>>>>> bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden files. I am trying to
>>>>> create more
>>>>> free space on that drive. Is there a way out?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in
>>>>> the Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete
>>>>> all these folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info
>>>>> going by the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help,.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ramesh
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04-15-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: Creating free space
Great points Gerry. I completely forgot about SR. 12% *would* be quite a
bit of "overkill" huh?
--
Curt
http://dundats.mvps.org/
http://www.aumha.org/
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23jAowVhnIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ramesh
>
> The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition which
> is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
> Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
> on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag it
> to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings
> screen click on Apply and OK and exit.
>
> Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary
> internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk.
> The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to
> offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer
> select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files,
> Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
> history is held.
>
> The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
> 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
> on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
> move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
> too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
> bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
>
> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
> Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>
> You will have a Local Settings folder for each User Profile. As others
> have said you will have a Temporary Internet Folder as well as the others
> mentioned. You can use Disk CleanUp to remove unwanted files. This should
> be part of your routine housekeeping procedures.
>
> If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with
> your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of
> your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows
> folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$
> etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed
> the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not
> compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and
> select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress
> contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount
> gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder
> compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Ramesh wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> The Local Settings folder size shows around 400MB. But its 3
>> subfolders .. Application Data, Apps and Temp total only to 80MB. Where
>> are the remaining bytes gone? I have enabled Show hidden
>> files. I am trying to create more free space on that drive. Is
>> there a way out?
>> I have over a 100 folders of the format ($NtUninstallKB828741$) in the
>> Windows folder dated 2005 onwards. Would it be safe to delete all
>> these folders? Seems to be folders containing Uninstall info going
>> by the name.
>> Thanks for any help,.
>>
>> Ramesh
>
>
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