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Old 04-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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File Count Different
I'm having an issue on numerous directories that contain a single file type
(MSG). If I right click and choose Properties on a directory, it may show a
file count of 1000. If I Right Click and choose search "*.MSG", it will
always show a higher file count... let's say from 1001 - 1050. Any ideas on
why Search shows more files than Properties?
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:33 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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RE: File Count Different
If the files/folders/paths were, in some cases, longer than 256 characters,
would this affect the count?

"Brian Krontz" wrote:

> I'm having an issue on numerous directories that contain a single file type
> (MSG). If I right click and choose Properties on a directory, it may show a
> file count of 1000. If I Right Click and choose search "*.MSG", it will
> always show a higher file count... let's say from 1001 - 1050. Any ideas on
> why Search shows more files than Properties?

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Old 04-14-2008, 10:33 PM
Howard Kaikow
 
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Re: File Count Different
"Brian Krontz" <BrianKrontz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5BA5C4F8-537F-49ED-8366-3D12215913A7@microsoft.com...
> I'm having an issue on numerous directories that contain a single file

type
> (MSG). If I right click and choose Properties on a directory, it may show

a
> file count of 1000. If I Right Click and choose search "*.MSG", it will
> always show a higher file count... let's say from 1001 - 1050. Any ideas

on
> why Search shows more files than Properties?



Open a Command Prompt window and do a dir/s/-p > SomeFileName.txt


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Old 04-16-2008, 01:59 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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Re: File Count Different
I understand where you are going with this, but it doesn't solve my
situation. Let me give you another example:

Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Visually count 21 files

[Or]

Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Right click directory and
select Properties > "Contains: 20 files"

The files are stored on a 2003 server... and I have the same issues when
using Explorer on the desktop or the server. It would be one thing if the
directory properties said more (ie: hidden file), but when they say LESS than
the visual count... I start to get worried.


"Howard Kaikow" wrote:

> "Brian Krontz" <BrianKrontz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5BA5C4F8-537F-49ED-8366-3D12215913A7@microsoft.com...
> > I'm having an issue on numerous directories that contain a single file

> type
> > (MSG). If I right click and choose Properties on a directory, it may show

> a
> > file count of 1000. If I Right Click and choose search "*.MSG", it will
> > always show a higher file count... let's say from 1001 - 1050. Any ideas

> on
> > why Search shows more files than Properties?

>
>
> Open a Command Prompt window and do a dir/s/-p > SomeFileName.txt
>
>
>

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Old 04-16-2008, 02:18 PM
Howard Kaikow
 
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Re: File Count Different
"Brian Krontz" <BrianKrontz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5F4E9277-072A-4DB7-9430-683D331A64F9@microsoft.com...
> I understand where you are going with this, but it doesn't solve my
> situation. Let me give you another example:
>
> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Visually count 21 files
>
> [Or]
>
> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Right click directory and
> select Properties > "Contains: 20 files"
>
> The files are stored on a 2003 server... and I have the same issues when
> using Explorer on the desktop or the server. It would be one thing if the
> directory properties said more (ie: hidden file), but when they say LESS

than
> the visual count... I start to get worried.


Do any of the files have the System or Hidden properties checked.

Could be that some counting methods do not include those files, depending
on the options you have chosen.


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Old 04-16-2008, 02:36 PM
PD43
 
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Re: File Count Different
"Howard Kaikow" <kaikow@standards.com> wrote:

>> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Visually count 21 files
>>
>> [Or]
>>
>> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Right click directory and
>> select Properties > "Contains: 20 files"
>>
>> The files are stored on a 2003 server... and I have the same issues when
>> using Explorer on the desktop or the server. It would be one thing if the
>> directory properties said more (ie: hidden file), but when they say LESS

>than
>> the visual count... I start to get worried.

>
>Do any of the files have the System or Hidden properties checked.
>
>Could be that some counting methods do not include those files, depending
>on the options you have chosen.


He's comparing a VISUAL count against what Explorer counts... and that
visual count is larger

READING is a skill.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:55 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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Re: File Count Different
Thank you both. The example I gave (21 visual files counted with 20 listed in
the Folder Properties)... there are 21 .MSG files in the directory... and 20
files in the Properties count. None are hidden or system.

This behavior is not specific to this example directory... and the counts
are correct on some directories that have MSG's while incorrect on others.



"PD43" wrote:

> "Howard Kaikow" <kaikow@standards.com> wrote:
>
> >> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Visually count 21 files
> >>
> >> [Or]
> >>
> >> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Right click directory and
> >> select Properties > "Contains: 20 files"
> >>
> >> The files are stored on a 2003 server... and I have the same issues when
> >> using Explorer on the desktop or the server. It would be one thing if the
> >> directory properties said more (ie: hidden file), but when they say LESS

> >than
> >> the visual count... I start to get worried.

> >
> >Do any of the files have the System or Hidden properties checked.
> >
> >Could be that some counting methods do not include those files, depending
> >on the options you have chosen.

>
> He's comparing a VISUAL count against what Explorer counts... and that
> visual count is larger
>
> READING is a skill.
>

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Old 04-16-2008, 03:26 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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Re: File Count Different
One thing that I'm noticing is that a lot, if not all, of the directories
with this issue have "copies" of files...

Example:
filename.msg
filename (1).msg

The problem, though, is that they aren't really copies of files. When we
export MSG's, filenames are assigned by Subject Line... so 2 emails with a
Subject Line of "Microsoft Windows 7 Release Date" would create 2 separate
files that would be called:

Microsoft Windows 7 Release Date.msg
Microsoft Windows 7 Release Date (1).msg

The contents of both MSG's are usually completely different as well as the
filesize.

Again... this is a trend I'm seeing, but not the end all difference between
directories with a correct count and directories with an incorrect count.
Either way, there are still two files... not one... right?

Thoughts?


"Brian Krontz" wrote:

> Thank you both. The example I gave (21 visual files counted with 20 listed in
> the Folder Properties)... there are 21 .MSG files in the directory... and 20
> files in the Properties count. None are hidden or system.
>
> This behavior is not specific to this example directory... and the counts
> are correct on some directories that have MSG's while incorrect on others.
>
>
>
> "PD43" wrote:
>
> > "Howard Kaikow" <kaikow@standards.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Visually count 21 files
> > >>
> > >> [Or]
> > >>
> > >> Windows Explorer opened > Browse to directory > Right click directory and
> > >> select Properties > "Contains: 20 files"
> > >>
> > >> The files are stored on a 2003 server... and I have the same issues when
> > >> using Explorer on the desktop or the server. It would be one thing if the
> > >> directory properties said more (ie: hidden file), but when they say LESS
> > >than
> > >> the visual count... I start to get worried.
> > >
> > >Do any of the files have the System or Hidden properties checked.
> > >
> > >Could be that some counting methods do not include those files, depending
> > >on the options you have chosen.

> >
> > He's comparing a VISUAL count against what Explorer counts... and that
> > visual count is larger
> >
> > READING is a skill.
> >

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Old 04-16-2008, 03:33 PM
PD43
 
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Re: File Count Different
Brian Krontz <BrianKrontz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>This behavior is not specific to this example directory... and the counts
>are correct on some directories that have MSG's while incorrect on others.


I'm curious why such a seemingly insignificant situation would be of
concern to you.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:59 PM
Brian Krontz
 
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Re: File Count Different
We are taking in evidence from law firms in the form of emails... processing
it... and we need to make sure we get it ALL processed and back to them.
Sometimes files are dropped in processing and when the base file counts on
thousands of folders and subfolders are off, it becomes a problem. We can't
say for sure whether or not we have all of the data to hand back to the law
firm... and nobody wants to be responsible for dropping the email that has
evidence to put the guys at Enron in jail... right?




"PD43" wrote:

> Brian Krontz <BrianKrontz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >This behavior is not specific to this example directory... and the counts
> >are correct on some directories that have MSG's while incorrect on others.

>
> I'm curious why such a seemingly insignificant situation would be of
> concern to you.
>

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