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Fix: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:23 AM
MowGreen [MVP]
 
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Fix: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
Zone Alarm moderator:
http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...ssage.id=52727

>> If the windows update changed the usual needed files for networking/internet, then the ZA will not see
>> the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore the newer files. Even though the
>> file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file size and checksums no longer
>> match.
>>
>> To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as when it was first installed:
>>
>> # Boot your computer into the Safe Mode
>> # Navigate to the c:\windows\internet logs folder
>> # Delete the backup.rdb, iamdb.rdb, *.ldb and the tvDebug files in the folder
>> # Clean the Recycle Bin
>> # Reboot into the normal mode
>> # ZA will be just like new with no previous settings or data
>>
>>
>> Once this is finished, reboot back into the normal mode and in the new network found windows, set the
>> new network to Trusted.
>> Then do this to ensure the ZA is setup properly:
>>
>> Make sure your DNS and DHCP server IP's are in your Firewall's Trusted zone. Finding DNS and DCHP
>> servers, etc
>>
>> 1. Go to Run and type in command and hit 'ok', and in the command then type in ipconfig /all then
>> press the enter key. In the returned data list will be a line DNS and DHCP Servers with the IP address
>> (s) listed out to the side. Make sure there is a space between the ipconfig and the /all, and the font
>> is the same (no capitals).
>> 2. In ZA on your machine on the Firewall, open the Zones tab, click Add and then select IP Address.
>> Make sure the Zone is set to Trusted. Add the DNS IP(s) .
>> 3. Click OK and Apply. Then do the same for the DHCP server.
>> 4. The localhost (127.0.0.1) must be listed as Trusted.
>> 5. The Generic Host Process (svchost.exe) as seen in the Zone Alarm's Program's list must have server
>> rights for the Trusted Zone.
>> Plus it must have both Trusted and Internet Access.
>>
>> Oldsod.



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Old 07-09-2008, 01:07 AM
noone
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
Tried that a few hours ago.
Hope it works for someone as it didn't fix mine.


"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:Oo7f8nV4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
> KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
> Zone Alarm moderator:
> http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...ssage.id=52727
>
>>> If the windows update changed the usual needed files for
>>> networking/internet, then the ZA will not see
>>> the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore
>>> the newer files. Even though the
>>> file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file
>>> size and checksums no longer match.
>>>
>>> To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as
>>> when it was first installed:
>>>
>>> # Boot your computer into the Safe Mode
>>> # Navigate to the c:\windows\internet logs folder
>>> # Delete the backup.rdb, iamdb.rdb, *.ldb and the tvDebug files in the
>>> folder
>>> # Clean the Recycle Bin
>>> # Reboot into the normal mode
>>> # ZA will be just like new with no previous settings or data
>>>
>>>
>>> Once this is finished, reboot back into the normal mode and in the new
>>> network found windows, set the
>>> new network to Trusted.
>>> Then do this to ensure the ZA is setup properly:
>>>
>>> Make sure your DNS and DHCP server IP's are in your Firewall's Trusted
>>> zone. Finding DNS and DCHP servers, etc
>>>
>>> 1. Go to Run and type in command and hit 'ok', and in the command then
>>> type in ipconfig /all then press the enter key. In the returned data
>>> list will be a line DNS and DHCP Servers with the IP address
>>> (s) listed out to the side. Make sure there is a space between the
>>> ipconfig and the /all, and the font is the same (no capitals).
>>> 2. In ZA on your machine on the Firewall, open the Zones tab, click Add
>>> and then select IP Address. Make sure the Zone is set to Trusted. Add
>>> the DNS IP(s) .
>>> 3. Click OK and Apply. Then do the same for the DHCP server.
>>> 4. The localhost (127.0.0.1) must be listed as Trusted.
>>> 5. The Generic Host Process (svchost.exe) as seen in the Zone Alarm's
>>> Program's list must have server
>>> rights for the Trusted Zone.
>>> Plus it must have both Trusted and Internet Access.
>>>
>>> Oldsod.

>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:13 AM
noone
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
Might read the entire thread from ZA as it was tried by a few and got the
same results as me -no go.


"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:Oo7f8nV4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
> KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
> Zone Alarm moderator:
> http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...ssage.id=52727
>
>>> If the windows update changed the usual needed files for
>>> networking/internet, then the ZA will not see
>>> the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore
>>> the newer files. Even though the
>>> file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file
>>> size and checksums no longer match.
>>>
>>> To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as
>>> when it was first installed:
>>>
>>> # Boot your computer into the Safe Mode
>>> # Navigate to the c:\windows\internet logs folder
>>> # Delete the backup.rdb, iamdb.rdb, *.ldb and the tvDebug files in the
>>> folder
>>> # Clean the Recycle Bin
>>> # Reboot into the normal mode
>>> # ZA will be just like new with no previous settings or data
>>>
>>>
>>> Once this is finished, reboot back into the normal mode and in the new
>>> network found windows, set the
>>> new network to Trusted.
>>> Then do this to ensure the ZA is setup properly:
>>>
>>> Make sure your DNS and DHCP server IP's are in your Firewall's Trusted
>>> zone. Finding DNS and DCHP servers, etc
>>>
>>> 1. Go to Run and type in command and hit 'ok', and in the command then
>>> type in ipconfig /all then press the enter key. In the returned data
>>> list will be a line DNS and DHCP Servers with the IP address
>>> (s) listed out to the side. Make sure there is a space between the
>>> ipconfig and the /all, and the font is the same (no capitals).
>>> 2. In ZA on your machine on the Firewall, open the Zones tab, click Add
>>> and then select IP Address. Make sure the Zone is set to Trusted. Add
>>> the DNS IP(s) .
>>> 3. Click OK and Apply. Then do the same for the DHCP server.
>>> 4. The localhost (127.0.0.1) must be listed as Trusted.
>>> 5. The Generic Host Process (svchost.exe) as seen in the Zone Alarm's
>>> Program's list must have server
>>> rights for the Trusted Zone.
>>> Plus it must have both Trusted and Internet Access.
>>>
>>> Oldsod.

>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
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> Never Forgotten
> ===============



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Old 07-09-2008, 01:34 AM
MowGreen [MVP]
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
Have you tried rebuilding the winsock from a Command Prompt with ZA
*completely* disabled and the native XP firewall enabled or, just
disconnect from the net while doing the following ?

Start > Run > type in

cmd
Click OK or press Enter

At the Command Prompt, type in the below and press Enter after *each*
command

netsh winsock reset
exit

Restart the system and see if connectivity is restored.
If no joy suggest you start a *free* support case with MS:

> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in the United States and Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary for support issues with security updates, visit the Microsoft International Support Web site:
> http://support.microsoft.com/common/....aspx?rdpath=4 North American customers can also obtain instant access to unlimited no-charge e-mail support or to unlimited individual chat support by visiting the following Microsoft Web site:
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...spx?&prid=7552


Or, not. The decision is entirely yours. As is the decision to install
Zone Alarm and continue using it when other free alternatives are
available that are not toxic to the OS. Here's one:

http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall...-software.html

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
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===============



noone wrote:

> Might read the entire thread from ZA as it was tried by a few and got the
> same results as me -no go.
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo7f8nV4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
>>KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
>>Zone Alarm moderator:
>>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...ssage.id=52727
>>
>>
>>>>If the windows update changed the usual needed files for
>>>>networking/internet, then the ZA will not see
>>>>the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore
>>>>the newer files. Even though the
>>>>file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file
>>>>size and checksums no longer match.
>>>>
>>>>To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as
>>>>when it was first installed:
>>>>
>>>># Boot your computer into the Safe Mode
>>>># Navigate to the c:\windows\internet logs folder
>>>># Delete the backup.rdb, iamdb.rdb, *.ldb and the tvDebug files in the
>>>>folder
>>>># Clean the Recycle Bin
>>>># Reboot into the normal mode
>>>># ZA will be just like new with no previous settings or data
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Once this is finished, reboot back into the normal mode and in the new
>>>>network found windows, set the
>>>>new network to Trusted.
>>>>Then do this to ensure the ZA is setup properly:
>>>>
>>>>Make sure your DNS and DHCP server IP's are in your Firewall's Trusted
>>>>zone. Finding DNS and DCHP servers, etc
>>>>
>>>>1. Go to Run and type in command and hit 'ok', and in the command then
>>>>type in ipconfig /all then press the enter key. In the returned data
>>>>list will be a line DNS and DHCP Servers with the IP address
>>>>(s) listed out to the side. Make sure there is a space between the
>>>>ipconfig and the /all, and the font is the same (no capitals).
>>>>2. In ZA on your machine on the Firewall, open the Zones tab, click Add
>>>>and then select IP Address. Make sure the Zone is set to Trusted. Add
>>>>the DNS IP(s) .
>>>>3. Click OK and Apply. Then do the same for the DHCP server.
>>>>4. The localhost (127.0.0.1) must be listed as Trusted.
>>>>5. The Generic Host Process (svchost.exe) as seen in the Zone Alarm's
>>>>Program's list must have server
>>>>rights for the Trusted Zone.
>>>>Plus it must have both Trusted and Internet Access.
>>>>
>>>>Oldsod.

>>
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============

>
>
>

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:46 AM
noone
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
Been there, done that.
Latest on the ZA forum is to not install KB951748 until they (ZA) come up
with a fix.
So far no fix is out.
Workaround is to move the Internet Zone Security from High to Medium.
It's a coin toss as to who you want to place your trust in at the moment -
MS or ZA.?

"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:%23IiWfPW4IHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Have you tried rebuilding the winsock from a Command Prompt with ZA
> *completely* disabled and the native XP firewall enabled or, just
> disconnect from the net while doing the following ?
>
> Start > Run > type in
>
> cmd
> Click OK or press Enter
>
> At the Command Prompt, type in the below and press Enter after *each*
> command
>
> netsh winsock reset
> exit
>
> Restart the system and see if connectivity is restored.
> If no joy suggest you start a *free* support case with MS:
>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>> in the United States and Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
>> subsidiary. For more information about how to contact your local
>> Microsoft subsidiary for support issues with security updates, visit the
>> Microsoft International Support Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/common/....aspx?rdpath=4 North
>> American customers can also obtain instant access to unlimited no-charge
>> e-mail support or to unlimited individual chat support by visiting the
>> following Microsoft Web site:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...spx?&prid=7552

>
> Or, not. The decision is entirely yours. As is the decision to install
> Zone Alarm and continue using it when other free alternatives are
> available that are not toxic to the OS. Here's one:
>
> http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall...-software.html
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
> noone wrote:
>
>> Might read the entire thread from ZA as it was tried by a few and got the
>> same results as me -no go.
>>
>>
>> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oo7f8nV4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
>>>KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
>>>Zone Alarm moderator:
>>>http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/b...ssage.id=52727
>>>
>>>
>>>>>If the windows update changed the usual needed files for
>>>>>networking/internet, then the ZA will not see
>>>>>the changes and continue to use the previously known files and ignore
>>>>>the newer files. Even though the
>>>>>file names and locations are still the same from before, now the file
>>>>>size and checksums no longer match.
>>>>>
>>>>>To solve this, just reset the ZA database and the ZA will be "fresh" as
>>>>>when it was first installed:
>>>>>
>>>>># Boot your computer into the Safe Mode
>>>>># Navigate to the c:\windows\internet logs folder
>>>>># Delete the backup.rdb, iamdb.rdb, *.ldb and the tvDebug files in the
>>>>>folder
>>>>># Clean the Recycle Bin
>>>>># Reboot into the normal mode
>>>>># ZA will be just like new with no previous settings or data
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Once this is finished, reboot back into the normal mode and in the new
>>>>>network found windows, set the
>>>>>new network to Trusted.
>>>>>Then do this to ensure the ZA is setup properly:
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure your DNS and DHCP server IP's are in your Firewall's Trusted
>>>>>zone. Finding DNS and DCHP servers, etc
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Go to Run and type in command and hit 'ok', and in the command then
>>>>>type in ipconfig /all then press the enter key. In the returned data
>>>>>list will be a line DNS and DHCP Servers with the IP address
>>>>>(s) listed out to the side. Make sure there is a space between the
>>>>>ipconfig and the /all, and the font is the same (no capitals).
>>>>>2. In ZA on your machine on the Firewall, open the Zones tab, click Add
>>>>>and then select IP Address. Make sure the Zone is set to Trusted. Add
>>>>>the DNS IP(s) .
>>>>>3. Click OK and Apply. Then do the same for the DHCP server.
>>>>>4. The localhost (127.0.0.1) must be listed as Trusted.
>>>>>5. The Generic Host Process (svchost.exe) as seen in the Zone Alarm's
>>>>>Program's list must have server
>>>>>rights for the Trusted Zone.
>>>>>Plus it must have both Trusted and Internet Access.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oldsod.
>>>
>>>
>>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
>>>===============
>>> *-343-* FDNY
>>>Never Forgotten
>>>===============

>>
>>


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Old 07-09-2008, 06:20 AM
Kayman
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:46:06 -0500, noone wrote:

> Been there, done that.
> Latest on the ZA forum is to not install KB951748 until they (ZA) come up
> with a fix.
> So far no fix is out.
> Workaround is to move the Internet Zone Security from High to Medium.
> It's a coin toss as to who you want to place your trust in at the moment -
> MS or ZA.?
>

Don't gamble with Internet security issues! Stick with MSFT! Uninstall ZA
In its entirety! Use this tool:
http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

Activate the WinXP f/w and use it in conjunction with SeconfigXP
http://seconfig.sytes.net/

Consider using a LUA for day-to-day use, harden your OS and don't expose
services to public networks.

You'll be glad you did.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:16 AM
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:26:41 +0100, Lord Turkey Cough wrote:

> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:eZoFRvY4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:46:06 -0500, noone wrote:
>>
>>> Been there, done that.
>>> Latest on the ZA forum is to not install KB951748 until they (ZA) come up
>>> with a fix.
>>> So far no fix is out.
>>> Workaround is to move the Internet Zone Security from High to Medium.
>>> It's a coin toss as to who you want to place your trust in at the
>>> moment -
>>> MS or ZA.?
>>>

>> Don't gamble with Internet security issues! Stick with MSFT! Uninstall ZA
>> In its entirety! Use this tool:
>> http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html
>>
>> Activate the WinXP f/w and use it in conjunction with SeconfigXP
>> http://seconfig.sytes.net/
>>
>> Consider using a LUA for day-to-day use, harden your OS and don't expose
>> services to public networks.
>>
>> You'll be glad you did.

>
>
> LOL.
>
> Relying on Microsoft for security is like employing a pedofile
> to look after your children.


Stop spewing and read my post in its entirety, Turkey.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
You are an idiot.

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:HKZck.229290$NN3.125519@newsfe08.ams2...
>> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eZoFRvY4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:46:06 -0500, noone wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been there, done that.
>>>> Latest on the ZA forum is to not install KB951748 until they (ZA) come
>>>> up
>>>> with a fix.
>>>> So far no fix is out.
>>>> Workaround is to move the Internet Zone Security from High to Medium.
>>>> It's a coin toss as to who you want to place your trust in at the
>>>> moment -
>>>> MS or ZA.?
>>>>
>>> Don't gamble with Internet security issues! Stick with MSFT! Uninstall ZA
>>> In its entirety! Use this tool:
>>> http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html
>>>
>>> Activate the WinXP f/w and use it in conjunction with SeconfigXP
>>> http://seconfig.sytes.net/
>>>
>>> Consider using a LUA for day-to-day use, harden your OS and don't expose
>>> services to public networks.
>>>
>>> You'll be glad you did.

>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> Relying on Microsoft for security is like employing a pedofile
>> to look after your children.

>
>
> Just in case there are likely to be any lawsuits flying around, Bill Gates
> is not, too my knowledge a pedofile.
>
>

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:55 PM
Unknown
 
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Re: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
Why are you so kind to him?
"bjr" <bj-nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You are an idiot.
>
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:HKZck.229290$NN3.125519@newsfe08.ams2...
>>> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eZoFRvY4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:46:06 -0500, noone wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Been there, done that.
>>>>> Latest on the ZA forum is to not install KB951748 until they (ZA) come
>>>>> up
>>>>> with a fix.
>>>>> So far no fix is out.
>>>>> Workaround is to move the Internet Zone Security from High to Medium.
>>>>> It's a coin toss as to who you want to place your trust in at the
>>>>> moment -
>>>>> MS or ZA.?
>>>>>
>>>> Don't gamble with Internet security issues! Stick with MSFT! Uninstall
>>>> ZA
>>>> In its entirety! Use this tool:
>>>> http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html
>>>>
>>>> Activate the WinXP f/w and use it in conjunction with SeconfigXP
>>>> http://seconfig.sytes.net/
>>>>
>>>> Consider using a LUA for day-to-day use, harden your OS and don't
>>>> expose
>>>> services to public networks.
>>>>
>>>> You'll be glad you did.
>>>
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> Relying on Microsoft for security is like employing a pedofile
>>> to look after your children.

>>
>>
>> Just in case there are likely to be any lawsuits flying around, Bill
>> Gates
>> is not, too my knowledge a pedofile.
>>


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Old 07-09-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: Fix: KB951748/Zone Alarm - Loss of connectivity
In article <Oo7f8nV4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, mowgreen@nowandzen.com says...
>
>
>For those experiencing a loss of internet connectivity after installing
>KB951748 with Zone Alarm installed as the firewall, here's the fix by a
>Zone Alarm moderator:
>

<snip>

No, that's for different problems. The official temp workarounds from ZA are here:

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/fr...cessIssue.html

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