On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:56:14 -0300, John John (MVP) wrote:
> Kayman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:55:06 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Kayman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job at its core mission and is
>>>>really all you need if you have an 'real-time' anti-virus program, [another
>>>>firewall on your router or] other edge protection like SeconfigXP and
>>>>practise safe-hex.
>>>>The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
>>>>give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
>>>>of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.
>>>>
>>>
>>>snip
>>>
>>>I kinda like to know what program is calling home. If I can't control
>>>that then might as well dump everything on the web and be done with it.
>>
>>
>> Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...s/default.aspx
>> Scroll down to:
>> "Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."
>>
>
> I really don't know why you keep spewing this nonsense out,
I am not the author John John, Jesper Johansson and Steve Riley are.
> no one is
> saying that you should rely on outbound traffic filtering for securing
> your computer. What many users are saying is that they like to know or
> be made aware of what may be wanting to access the internet without
> their knowledge and you of course keep on telling them that they are
> dumb for wanting to have that knowledge.
How would you know what users are saying? And what did *I* tell Gerald
Ross?
Your crystal ball is cracked, to say the least!
> We all know that the Windows firewall is sufficient and good at it's job
You *all* know?? Oh boy, a strong statement. I refrain from commenting.
> but quite frankly you are starting to sound like a cracked record
Frequent contributors have 'canned' responses, nothing new here. It is very
common and deemed unobjectionable as long as they are pertinent in relation
to the subject matter and/or message. You just have to glance thru the
replies sent by you fellows MVP's.
You do realize that you don't own usenet services, now do you?
(You're some frustrated individual, embarrassing really)
> and you should stop berating users for wanting to find out what is
> going on with their computers!
Don't tell me what to do! (Wannabe netcop lol). You are way out of line.
Posting and referring to articles/publications of accomplished and
recognized authors is educational and far from what *you* call berating.
(You can't be very intelligent).
> I already know what you are going to reply;
Really? Well, if your crystal ball isn't cracked then you probably got it
from e-bay.
BTW, what are you smoking?
> you know all that there is to
> know about "your" applications on "your" computer so others should be as
> smart as you and should also not need to filter outbound traffic. So
> don't bother with a long tirade, I have already been trough this with
> you before:
Then why did you bother? What's your point?
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...da8bd8f830859c
The above link makes excellent and educational reading.
I just was looking into my crystal ball; Sorry to inform you that you're
not on the short list for receiving a Lamborghini Laptop
Have a wonderful day, John John (MVP) :-)
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