Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts
that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:
first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose
to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,
as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,
weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there
and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is
full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.
Allen

There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea Timer".


ju.c


"Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com ...
> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that there may be
> conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are my doubts well founded;
> second, if so, which should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm
> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
> equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old
> lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can be
> trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.
> Allen

....if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.

ju.c wrote:
> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea
> Timer".
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that
>> there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are
>> my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose to continue.
>> I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista, as a result of
>> my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is
>> populated with a huge number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old
>> lunatics;
>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can be
>> trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people.
>> Thanks
>> for any help. Allen

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen wrote:

> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts
> that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:
> first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose
> to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,
> as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
> equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,
> weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there
> and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is
> full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.


Have a look at this:
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
and be guided accordingly.
Good info can be obtained here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20
and here:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/

If the above is too deluging consider this:-
Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.
Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm
or
Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
GMER technology.
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
or
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/
(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)
or
ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
http://www.eset.com/
or
Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

and (optional but highly recommendable)

On-demand AV applications.
(add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).
David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
English:
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/...irus-for-free/
Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm
and/or
BitDefender10 Free Edition (*NOT FOR VISTA*)
http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html
Kaspersky's AVPTool
http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated
several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever
you want to do a scan.

Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE
http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/

Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe
Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install.

A-S applications - for non-viral malware.
The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss, (grab'em all).

SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html
and
Ad-Aware 2007 - Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
and
Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
and
Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware
and worms to install to the OS.
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for
"malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of
malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc.
What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the
term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware
and adware.

Good luck

I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me
grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly?

Jeff

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.
>
> ju.c wrote:
>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's
>> "Tea Timer".
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have
>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two
>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which
>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm
>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a
>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge
>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;
>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can
>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful
>>> people. Thanks
>>> for any help. Allen

Hi Bear.

A lot of people have apparently had problems when Tea Timer is active. I
was one of them and had to deactivate it long ago though I now no longer
recall what the problem was.

What does one need to know to use Tea Timer (wierd name) without running
into problems or conflicts?

Jeff

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.
>
> ju.c wrote:
>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's
>> "Tea Timer".
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have
>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two
>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which
>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm
>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a
>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge
>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;
>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can
>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful
>>> people. Thanks
>>> for any help. Allen

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts
>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:
>first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose
>to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,
>as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
>equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,
>weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there
>and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is
>full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.
>Allen


There are separate versions of Spy Sweeper that work for Vista. I use
both Spy Sweeper (all shields enabled) and Spybot but the resident
Tea-Timer in Spybot is disabled. No problems in XP. To get a
straight answer you might want to contact the makers of Spy Sweeper.

1. Make sure it's been fully disabled. See
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=32409

2. You can ask about Tea Timer in Spybot Forums:
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=4
--
~PA Bear

Jeff@unknown.com wrote:
> I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me
> grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly?
>
> Jeff
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.
>>
>> ju.c wrote:
>>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's
>>> "Tea Timer".
>>>
>>> ju.c
>>>
>>>
>>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have
>>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two
>>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which
>>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm
>>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a
>>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge
>>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;
>>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can
>>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful
>>>> people. Thanks
>>>> for any help. Allen

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts
>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:
>first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose
>to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,
>as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
>equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,
>weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there
>and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is
>full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.
>Allen

Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can
post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as
well ask how to fix the ignition control module in my car here in that
case as it is, after all, a computer.

Ask elsewhere

Edric wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts
>> that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:
>> first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose
>> to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,
>> as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the
>> equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,
>> weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there
>> and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is
>> full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.
>> Allen
>
> Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can
> post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as
> well ask how to fix the ignition control module in my car here in that
> case as it is, after all, a computer.
>
> Ask elsewhere
>
Well, well, well. It looks like one of the imbeciles from the Vista ng
escaped. I explained why I posted here, and it was basically because
this group wasn't loaded with fools a month ago when I had to leave XP.
And I must add that a question regarding whether two COMPUTER programs
conflicted--nothing about ignition systems.
Allen