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Old 02-18-2008, 11:31 PM
Ricoy-Chicago
 
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cannot access data files
Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the motherboard
went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me" computer
has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
computer...

All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?


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Old 02-18-2008, 11:40 PM
philo
 
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Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

motherboard
> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

computer
> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
>
> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
> computer...
>
> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
>
>



WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

XP is usually installed on an NTFS drive, so is not going to be readable

you need to attach the drive to an other machine...
one running Win2k, XP or Vista (or NT for that matter)


Note: there may be a third party utility avail to read NTFS form windows
but I have no idea if it would work

Otherwise...there is one dos utility I know of


http://www.freewarefiles.com/ntfsdos...ram_11100.html




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Old 02-18-2008, 11:44 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
 
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Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
> motherboard
> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
> computer
> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
>
> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
> computer...
>
> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
>
>


Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
backup medium.


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Old 02-19-2008, 12:00 AM
Ricoy-Chicago
 
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Re: cannot access data files
i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I connect
the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM
ribbon?

I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA
HD...same problem as above....


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
> > Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
> > motherboard
> > went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
> > computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
> > computer
> > has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
> > Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
> >
> > I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but
> > then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
> > computer...
> >
> > All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is
> > there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
> >
> >

>
> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.
>
> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
> backup medium.
>
>
>

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Old 02-19-2008, 12:40 AM
philo
 
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Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C0D372F-8465-447F-8CE4-9C32A089E3CB@microsoft.com...
> i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I

connect
> the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM
> ribbon?
>
> I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA
> HD...same problem as above....
>
>
>


<snip>

As long as either of those machines somewhere has an IDE header,
that's the way to go


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Old 02-19-2008, 12:50 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Re: cannot access data files
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:


> WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)



Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:30 AM
Karl Snooks
 
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Re: cannot access data files
Pegasus,
went to www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?
karl snooks

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
>> motherboard
>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older
>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
>> computer
>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
>>
>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP
>> but
>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
>> computer...
>>
>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".
>> Is
>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
>>
>>

>
> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.
>
> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
> backup medium.
>



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Old 02-19-2008, 05:36 AM
Bill in Co.
 
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Re: cannot access data files
Just FYI: I found it in a Google search, but I don't recall where at this
point.

Karl Snooks wrote:
> Pegasus,
> went to www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?
> karl snooks
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
>>> motherboard
>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my
>>> older
>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
>>> computer
>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
>>>
>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP
>>> but
>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
>>> computer...
>>>
>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".
>>> Is
>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.
>>
>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
>> backup medium.



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Old 02-19-2008, 06:37 AM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
 
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Re: cannot access data files
They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google
search box:

download "ntfsdos.exe"

I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:
http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm


"Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Pegasus,
> went to www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?
> karl snooks
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...
>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the
>>> motherboard
>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my
>>> older
>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"
>>> computer
>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win
>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...
>>>
>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP
>>> but
>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different
>>> computer...
>>>
>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".
>>> Is
>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from www.sysinternals.com
>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.
>>
>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup
>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files
>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people
>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an
>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective
>> backup medium.
>>

>
>



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Old 02-19-2008, 08:56 AM
philo
 
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Re: cannot access data files

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
> > WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

>
>
> Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.
>
>



Note I did not write "Fat32" .

My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

and easily enough understood shorthand.


OTOH: I don't know if my shorthand notation implied that WinME can recognize
NT4's 4gig Fat16...
it may have trouble reading the entire partition.

I'm sure I tested that sometime many years ago
but...<G>


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