problem with lpt1 port

Bill

That is a post I found and not something I have tried. It is for
getting a parallel port to work with XP. It has nothing to do with using
a USB port. The whole thread is in the link.

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Gerry
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Bill in Co. wrote:
> Well, I must be misrembering something if you were able to get that
> HP4L to actually work with a newer WinXP computer without a parallel
> port (regardless of any so called USB to parallel port (or vice
> versa) adapter cables)
>
> Gerry wrote:
>> This post may help
>>
>> I had a similar problem with my HP LJ 4L after upgrading to XP. Turns
>> out the problem was corrected by changing the BIOS setting for the
>> parrell port on my Dell. The setting was ECP. The problem with the
>> printer was corrected by changing the value to EPP.
>> Source: Hockley http://www.forum.miraplacid.com/topic.pl?topic_id=146
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> zirath wrote:
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OjUEePb2IHA.5512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> zirath wrote:
>>>>> I've been trying to install an hp laserjet 4L. The device manager
>>>>> lists lpt1
>>>>> but the add printer wizard doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> The automatic printer installation fails with the error message
>>>>> that there
>>>>> was a problem
>>>>> with the port.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created the lpt1 port using the add printer wizard and the
>>>>> printer is installed
>>>>> to it and functions, but each time I boot the plug and play
>>>>> detection finds
>>>>> the printer and keeps trying to install it and fails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Help appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> The HP LaserJet 4L is a parallel port printer, and you don't have a
>>>> parallel port, do you? Most newer computers don't have them
>>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> We have a parallel port on the computer. We had no trouble with it
>>> until upgrading to windows xp.

Bill

You probably can buy HP printers in the US for a bit less than I have
quoted. I have merely converted £Sterling to US$ at the rate of $2 to
the £.

The next machine after the HP Laserjet P2014 Printer is the P2015 cost
£170 (US$340) giving up to 26 ppm and a monthly duty cycle of 15000.
This was more than I was prepared to pay.

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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. wrote:
> Gerry wrote:
>> Bill
>>
>> I had a HP Laserjet 4L and it was a good printer.
>
> Yup. I did too. Got rid of it some time ago since I bought a newer
> printer.
>
>> As I recall the paper
>> feed was from a flat tray rather than a vertical feed adopted by the
>> 5L and 6L successors. A flat feed is far less prone to paper jams.
>> The print rate would be slow by today's standards (up to 4ppm) but
>> if speed was not an issue it's a good workhorse. However, buying a
>> modern eqivalent is now a lot cheaper than when I bought my 4L.
>
> Exactly! And that 4 ppm was SLOW! Plus it was designed for a
> parallel port.
>
>> As you said it requires a Bio-Tronics parallel interface. The model
>> became obsolete in 1995 and support ceased in 2000. Cartridges may be
>> still available
>
> And they are a bit expensive (I think their cartridges are going up in
> price)
>
>> but I would be surprised if parts to repair are still
>> obtainable.
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...ectID=bpl02078
>>
>> I am currently awaiting delivery of an HP Laserjet P2014 Printer,
>> which including cartridge is costing £120 (US$240). A cartridge
>> costs about £50 (US$100) if bought from the right source i.e. not a
>> big store like Staples. The print rate is 23 ppm and the monthly
>> duty cycle is 10,000 pages.
>
> 10,000 pages on one cartridge? That is impressive!
>
>> An HP Laserjet P1005 can be bought for £58 (US$116) including
>> cartridge which gives 14 ppm and a monthly duty cycle of 5,000 page.
>
> Gerry, I recently bought a HP Laserjet 1018 to replace my old HP4L
> critter. It cost me a bit over $100 US dollars (guess that would be a
> bit over £50), and seems to work out fine here. Nothing really
> fancy. Not sure how it compares to the P1005. Mine is probably
> more comparable to the HP 1020.
> I purchased that (slightly) older HP model (1018 instead of 1020)
> since it still had W98SE drivers that would allow it to work as a USB
> port printer with my other (Win98SE) computer AND my new WinXP
> computer. The newer model 1020 apparently doesn't have Win98SE
> compatible USB print drivers (so even if you did get that special USB
> to parallel cable adapter, it would still be a "no go", as I recall).

OK. I've probably confused myself already too, at this point. :-)

Gerry wrote:
> Bill
>
> That is a post I found and not something I have tried. It is for
> getting a parallel port to work with XP. It has nothing to do with using
> a USB port. The whole thread is in the link.
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> Well, I must be misrembering something if you were able to get that
>> HP4L to actually work with a newer WinXP computer without a parallel
>> port (regardless of any so called USB to parallel port (or vice
>> versa) adapter cables)
>>
>> Gerry wrote:
>>> This post may help
>>>
>>> I had a similar problem with my HP LJ 4L after upgrading to XP. Turns
>>> out the problem was corrected by changing the BIOS setting for the
>>> parrell port on my Dell. The setting was ECP. The problem with the
>>> printer was corrected by changing the value to EPP.
>>> Source: Hockley http://www.forum.miraplacid.com/topic.pl?topic_id=146
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> zirath wrote:
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OjUEePb2IHA.5512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> zirath wrote:
>>>>>> I've been trying to install an hp laserjet 4L. The device manager
>>>>>> lists lpt1
>>>>>> but the add printer wizard doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The automatic printer installation fails with the error message
>>>>>> that there
>>>>>> was a problem
>>>>>> with the port.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created the lpt1 port using the add printer wizard and the
>>>>>> printer is installed
>>>>>> to it and functions, but each time I boot the plug and play
>>>>>> detection finds
>>>>>> the printer and keeps trying to install it and fails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> The HP LaserJet 4L is a parallel port printer, and you don't have a
>>>>> parallel port, do you? Most newer computers don't have them
>>>>> anymore.
>>>>
>>>> We have a parallel port on the computer. We had no trouble with it
>>>> until upgrading to windows xp.

Bill

It was a good catch by you to pick up on the relevance of the parallel
port as that was not something I would have picked up on.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. wrote:
> OK. I've probably confused myself already too, at this point. :-)
>
> Gerry wrote:
>> Bill
>>
>> That is a post I found and not something I have tried. It is for
>> getting a parallel port to work with XP. It has nothing to do with
>> using a USB port. The whole thread is in the link.
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>> Well, I must be misrembering something if you were able to get that
>>> HP4L to actually work with a newer WinXP computer without a parallel
>>> port (regardless of any so called USB to parallel port (or vice
>>> versa) adapter cables)
>>>
>>> Gerry wrote:
>>>> This post may help
>>>>
>>>> I had a similar problem with my HP LJ 4L after upgrading to XP.
>>>> Turns out the problem was corrected by changing the BIOS setting
>>>> for the parrell port on my Dell. The setting was ECP. The problem
>>>> with the printer was corrected by changing the value to EPP.
>>>> Source: Hockley
>>>> http://www.forum.miraplacid.com/topic.pl?topic_id=146 --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> zirath wrote:
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OjUEePb2IHA.5512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> zirath wrote:
>>>>>>> I've been trying to install an hp laserjet 4L. The device
>>>>>>> manager lists lpt1
>>>>>>> but the add printer wizard doesn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The automatic printer installation fails with the error message
>>>>>>> that there
>>>>>>> was a problem
>>>>>>> with the port.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created the lpt1 port using the add printer wizard and the
>>>>>>> printer is installed
>>>>>>> to it and functions, but each time I boot the plug and play
>>>>>>> detection finds
>>>>>>> the printer and keeps trying to install it and fails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The HP LaserJet 4L is a parallel port printer, and you don't
>>>>>> have a parallel port, do you? Most newer computers don't have
>>>>>> them anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a parallel port on the computer. We had no trouble with it
>>>>> until upgrading to windows xp.

Here's a link to a procedure that may be of help to you:

Problematic parallel printer port fix for Windows XP
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...1-1056133.html

"zirath" <zirath_m.x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23RHGC6g2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OjUEePb2IHA.5512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> zirath wrote:
>>> I've been trying to install an hp laserjet 4L. The device manager lists lpt1
>>> but the add printer wizard doesn't.
>>>
>>> The automatic printer installation fails with the error message that there
>>> was a problem
>>> with the port.
>>>
>>> I created the lpt1 port using the add printer wizard and the printer is
>>> installed
>>> to it and functions, but each time I boot the plug and play detection finds
>>> the printer and keeps trying to install it and fails.
>>>
>>> Help appreciated.
>>
>> The HP LaserJet 4L is a parallel port printer, and you don't have a parallel
>> port, do you? Most newer computers don't have them anymore.
>
> We have a parallel port on the computer. We had no trouble with it until
> upgrading to windows xp.
>

"zirath" <zirath_m.x@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ud$l7Va2IHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I've been trying to install an hp laserjet 4L. The device manager lists
> lpt1
> but the add printer wizard doesn't.
>
> The automatic printer installation fails with the error message that there
> was a problem
> with the port.
>
> I created the lpt1 port using the add printer wizard and the printer is
> installed
> to it and functions, but each time I boot the plug and play detection
> finds the printer
> and keeps trying to install it and fails.
>
> Help appreciated.
>
>

Believe Bill is on the right course regarding bios configuration of the LPT1
(parallel) port. Don't remember what printer it was, but fix was same. My
conclusion was that XP doesn't view ECP the same as previous versions of
windows as WinME worked fine configured that way. So, you have to use EPP
in bios configuration for XP regarding the printer.
--
Dave

We have a right to choose.
Choices have consequences,
for both self, and others.
You probably considered yourself.

On Jun 29, 2:58 pm, "Gerry" <ge...@nospam.com> wrote:
> This post may help
>
> I had a similar problem with my HP LJ 4L after upgrading to XP. Turns
> out the problem was corrected by changing the BIOS setting for the
> parrell port on my Dell. The setting was ECP. The problem with the
> printer was corrected by changing the value to EPP.
> Source: Hockleyhttp://www.forum.miraplacid.com/topic.pl?topic_id=146
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Don't know why the LPT1 port doesn't show up in the "Add New Printer" wizard
but does show up in the Device Manager. The wizard kept trying to use LPT2.

I originally created LPT1 in the printer wizard and the printer functioned,
but each time I booted the machine the wizard would find the printer and try
to add it and give an error about the port.

Finally, I switched the port in the Device Manager from LPT1 to LPT2 and
that solved the problem. The bios for the parallel port is set to "enable",
and "bi-directional".

By the way, alot of these posts are not showing up on the microsoft server
but I found them on google.