hard drive issues

Hi,
I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard drive is
good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp home. The second
laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is a Toshiba and the second is
a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive into the Dell and have it work like
that. Am I going to have any problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on the
corrupt drive is there a way to copy all my programs files and settings from
the other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will reformat the
other drive so programs are only on one drive.
Thanks,
John

That aint going to work - period
And no you cannot copy programs from one sys to another

"traumajohn" <traumajohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B94BA81C-C03F-4492-A508-B424218C3AFB@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard drive is
> good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp home. The second
> laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is a Toshiba and the second
> is
> a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive into the Dell and have it work
> like
> that. Am I going to have any problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on
> the
> corrupt drive is there a way to copy all my programs files and settings
> from
> the other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
> something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will reformat the
> other drive so programs are only on one drive.
> Thanks,
> John

I thought there was a way to do a drive copy when changing to a new or larger
hard drive. Drive copy or ghost or something like that.

"DL" wrote:

> That aint going to work - period
> And no you cannot copy programs from one sys to another
>
> "traumajohn" <traumajohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B94BA81C-C03F-4492-A508-B424218C3AFB@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> > I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard drive is
> > good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp home. The second
> > laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is a Toshiba and the second
> > is
> > a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive into the Dell and have it work
> > like
> > that. Am I going to have any problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on
> > the
> > corrupt drive is there a way to copy all my programs files and settings
> > from
> > the other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
> > something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will reformat the
> > other drive so programs are only on one drive.
> > Thanks,
> > John
>
>
>

traumajohn wrote:
> I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard
> drive is good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp
> home. The second laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is
> a Toshiba and the second is a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive
> into the Dell and have it work like that. Am I going to have any
> problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on the corrupt drive is
> there a way to copy all my programs files and settings from the
> other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
> something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will
> reformat the other drive so programs are only on one drive.

<snipped>

traumajohn wrote:
> I thought there was a way to do a drive copy when changing to a new
> or larger hard drive. Drive copy or ghost or something like that.

First - your story is a bit confusing...

Your Toshiba laptop has a bad display - but as far as you know - a good hard
disk drive. It has all the applications on it that you would desire to
utilize.

Your Dell laptop has a 'corrupt' hard disk drive. You really do not explain
what that means. Is the hardware physically bad or did things just get
really scrambled by poor management?

Here's the issues you have - assuming that both drives are physically fit.

1) Are they the same type of drive? Just because they are both in laptops
does not automatically mean they are physically interchangeable.

2) The Toshiba install is - per the license - stuck on the Toshiba laptop.
Same for the Dell. That is part of the End User license Agreement - as they
will both likely be OEM copies of Windows XP.

3) The software (applications) and hardware drivers on the Toshiba install
are *for the Toshiba*. The drivers certainly will not work, the
applications (many of them - especially those specific to the laptop itself)
may not work.

4) Did they both have the same flavor of Windows XP (Home, Professional,
etc) installed upon them?

From a strictly technical standpoint...

While it is possible you could take the hard disk drive out of the Toshiba
(if it is of the same type and fits) and change the BIOS settings to the new
drive settings, perform a repair installation with an actual Windows XP
installation CD (fixing the hardware driver issues somewhat), install the
latest hardware drivers from Dell, uninstall the Toshiba specific
applications, change the Windows XP Product key from the Toshiba provided
one to the Dell provided one and be 'so-so' in the clear. Technically -
however - if the programs came installed on the Toshiba (Office, etc) - they
may be licensed for an install on the Toshiba and nothing else.

It is also possible you could image the drives and instead of flip-flopping
the physical hardware, simply apply the images in a way that works the same
and do everything after the physical hard disk drive swap I mentioned in the
last paragraph and end up in the same boat as previously described.

However - to stay 100% within your rights per every conceivable limitation,
you should replace the hard disk drive in the Dell with whatever you want
(or one that is fully functional (if the one in it is not)) and use the Dell
installation method to restore it to the as-purchased state and then - if
you have the installation media and transferrable licenses for the programs
you wish to utilize - install them on the fresh install of the Dell and go
from there.

What you cannot do - in accordance with the EULA - is move the license from
the Toshiba laptop to anything else. The product key for the Toshiba laptop
is specific to that installation. If it cannot be used on that system - it
canot be transferred anywhere else. System dies - too bad - you will have
to buy a new license of Windows XP if you wish ot use it elsewhere.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Sorry about the wordy or lack of correct words I used. The laptop with bad
display I tested the hard drive and it is okay. It is also the one that has
all the programs that I want and need to keep. The second laptop, the drive
won't boot up to windows and I get a missing hal.dll message. I am unable to
find the reinstall disk and the drives are the same. I made a mistake earlier
in that the 2 laptops are both Dell's. I have a spare hard drive that works
in both laptops and wonder how I can do like you saide an image from the hdd
of the good drive to the other working drive.
Thanks for bearing with me.
John

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> traumajohn wrote:
> > I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard
> > drive is good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp
> > home. The second laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is
> > a Toshiba and the second is a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive
> > into the Dell and have it work like that. Am I going to have any
> > problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on the corrupt drive is
> > there a way to copy all my programs files and settings from the
> > other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
> > something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will
> > reformat the other drive so programs are only on one drive.
>
> <snipped>
>
> traumajohn wrote:
> > I thought there was a way to do a drive copy when changing to a new
> > or larger hard drive. Drive copy or ghost or something like that.
>
> First - your story is a bit confusing...
>
> Your Toshiba laptop has a bad display - but as far as you know - a good hard
> disk drive. It has all the applications on it that you would desire to
> utilize.
>
> Your Dell laptop has a 'corrupt' hard disk drive. You really do not explain
> what that means. Is the hardware physically bad or did things just get
> really scrambled by poor management?
>
> Here's the issues you have - assuming that both drives are physically fit.
>
> 1) Are they the same type of drive? Just because they are both in laptops
> does not automatically mean they are physically interchangeable.
>
> 2) The Toshiba install is - per the license - stuck on the Toshiba laptop.
> Same for the Dell. That is part of the End User license Agreement - as they
> will both likely be OEM copies of Windows XP.
>
> 3) The software (applications) and hardware drivers on the Toshiba install
> are *for the Toshiba*. The drivers certainly will not work, the
> applications (many of them - especially those specific to the laptop itself)
> may not work.
>
> 4) Did they both have the same flavor of Windows XP (Home, Professional,
> etc) installed upon them?
>
> From a strictly technical standpoint...
>
> While it is possible you could take the hard disk drive out of the Toshiba
> (if it is of the same type and fits) and change the BIOS settings to the new
> drive settings, perform a repair installation with an actual Windows XP
> installation CD (fixing the hardware driver issues somewhat), install the
> latest hardware drivers from Dell, uninstall the Toshiba specific
> applications, change the Windows XP Product key from the Toshiba provided
> one to the Dell provided one and be 'so-so' in the clear. Technically -
> however - if the programs came installed on the Toshiba (Office, etc) - they
> may be licensed for an install on the Toshiba and nothing else.
>
> It is also possible you could image the drives and instead of flip-flopping
> the physical hardware, simply apply the images in a way that works the same
> and do everything after the physical hard disk drive swap I mentioned in the
> last paragraph and end up in the same boat as previously described.
>
> However - to stay 100% within your rights per every conceivable limitation,
> you should replace the hard disk drive in the Dell with whatever you want
> (or one that is fully functional (if the one in it is not)) and use the Dell
> installation method to restore it to the as-purchased state and then - if
> you have the installation media and transferrable licenses for the programs
> you wish to utilize - install them on the fresh install of the Dell and go
> from there.
>
> What you cannot do - in accordance with the EULA - is move the license from
> the Toshiba laptop to anything else. The product key for the Toshiba laptop
> is specific to that installation. If it cannot be used on that system - it
> canot be transferred anywhere else. System dies - too bad - you will have
> to buy a new license of Windows XP if you wish ot use it elsewhere.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

You will need to be able to connect both drives to the unit, so you will
need an external enclosure and power supply for the target drive.

traumajohn wrote:

> Sorry about the wordy or lack of correct words I used. The laptop with bad
> display I tested the hard drive and it is okay. It is also the one that has
> all the programs that I want and need to keep. The second laptop, the drive
> won't boot up to windows and I get a missing hal.dll message. I am unable to
> find the reinstall disk and the drives are the same. I made a mistake earlier
> in that the 2 laptops are both Dell's. I have a spare hard drive that works
> in both laptops and wonder how I can do like you saide an image from the hdd
> of the good drive to the other working drive.
> Thanks for bearing with me.
> John
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
>
>>traumajohn wrote:
>>
>>>I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard
>>>drive is good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp
>>>home. The second laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is
>>>a Toshiba and the second is a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive
>>>into the Dell and have it work like that. Am I going to have any
>>>problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on the corrupt drive is
>>>there a way to copy all my programs files and settings from the
>>>other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
>>>something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will
>>>reformat the other drive so programs are only on one drive.
>>
>><snipped>
>>
>>traumajohn wrote:
>>
>>>I thought there was a way to do a drive copy when changing to a new
>>>or larger hard drive. Drive copy or ghost or something like that.
>>
>>First - your story is a bit confusing...
>>
>>Your Toshiba laptop has a bad display - but as far as you know - a good hard
>>disk drive. It has all the applications on it that you would desire to
>>utilize.
>>
>>Your Dell laptop has a 'corrupt' hard disk drive. You really do not explain
>>what that means. Is the hardware physically bad or did things just get
>>really scrambled by poor management?
>>
>>Here's the issues you have - assuming that both drives are physically fit.
>>
>>1) Are they the same type of drive? Just because they are both in laptops
>>does not automatically mean they are physically interchangeable.
>>
>>2) The Toshiba install is - per the license - stuck on the Toshiba laptop.
>>Same for the Dell. That is part of the End User license Agreement - as they
>>will both likely be OEM copies of Windows XP.
>>
>>3) The software (applications) and hardware drivers on the Toshiba install
>>are *for the Toshiba*. The drivers certainly will not work, the
>>applications (many of them - especially those specific to the laptop itself)
>>may not work.
>>
>>4) Did they both have the same flavor of Windows XP (Home, Professional,
>>etc) installed upon them?
>>
>>From a strictly technical standpoint...
>>
>>While it is possible you could take the hard disk drive out of the Toshiba
>>(if it is of the same type and fits) and change the BIOS settings to the new
>>drive settings, perform a repair installation with an actual Windows XP
>>installation CD (fixing the hardware driver issues somewhat), install the
>>latest hardware drivers from Dell, uninstall the Toshiba specific
>>applications, change the Windows XP Product key from the Toshiba provided
>>one to the Dell provided one and be 'so-so' in the clear. Technically -
>>however - if the programs came installed on the Toshiba (Office, etc) - they
>>may be licensed for an install on the Toshiba and nothing else.
>>
>>It is also possible you could image the drives and instead of flip-flopping
>>the physical hardware, simply apply the images in a way that works the same
>>and do everything after the physical hard disk drive swap I mentioned in the
>>last paragraph and end up in the same boat as previously described.
>>
>>However - to stay 100% within your rights per every conceivable limitation,
>>you should replace the hard disk drive in the Dell with whatever you want
>>(or one that is fully functional (if the one in it is not)) and use the Dell
>>installation method to restore it to the as-purchased state and then - if
>>you have the installation media and transferrable licenses for the programs
>>you wish to utilize - install them on the fresh install of the Dell and go
>>from there.
>>
>>What you cannot do - in accordance with the EULA - is move the license from
>>the Toshiba laptop to anything else. The product key for the Toshiba laptop
>>is specific to that installation. If it cannot be used on that system - it
>>canot be transferred anywhere else. System dies - too bad - you will have
>>to buy a new license of Windows XP if you wish ot use it elsewhere.
>>
>>--
>>Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>>--
>>How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>

You can use the tool usually freely available on the hd manufacturers site
to clone the old drive to the new drive.
Or you can use a third party tool such as Acronis.

Whether the installation taken from one laptop and cloned to a drive to be
used on another laptop will work is debateable, even if they are both Dells.

"traumajohn" <traumajohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news53F49AB-08C3-4666-A069-69E0F39DF7F9@microsoft.com...
> Sorry about the wordy or lack of correct words I used. The laptop with
> bad
> display I tested the hard drive and it is okay. It is also the one that
> has
> all the programs that I want and need to keep. The second laptop, the
> drive
> won't boot up to windows and I get a missing hal.dll message. I am unable
> to
> find the reinstall disk and the drives are the same. I made a mistake
> earlier
> in that the 2 laptops are both Dell's. I have a spare hard drive that
> works
> in both laptops and wonder how I can do like you saide an image from the
> hdd
> of the good drive to the other working drive.
> Thanks for bearing with me.
> John
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
>> traumajohn wrote:
>> > I have 2 laptops. One just fell and the display went bad but hard
>> > drive is good and the other has my programs that I want. It has xp
>> > home. The second laptop hard drive is now corrupt. First laptop is
>> > a Toshiba and the second is a Dell. I want to put the Toshiba drive
>> > into the Dell and have it work like that. Am I going to have any
>> > problems with that? Or if I reinstall xp on the corrupt drive is
>> > there a way to copy all my programs files and settings from the
>> > other drive onto the newly installed drive. Like a drive copy or
>> > something so I get everything from one onto the other. I will
>> > reformat the other drive so programs are only on one drive.
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> traumajohn wrote:
>> > I thought there was a way to do a drive copy when changing to a new
>> > or larger hard drive. Drive copy or ghost or something like that.
>>
>> First - your story is a bit confusing...
>>
>> Your Toshiba laptop has a bad display - but as far as you know - a good
>> hard
>> disk drive. It has all the applications on it that you would desire to
>> utilize.
>>
>> Your Dell laptop has a 'corrupt' hard disk drive. You really do not
>> explain
>> what that means. Is the hardware physically bad or did things just get
>> really scrambled by poor management?
>>
>> Here's the issues you have - assuming that both drives are physically
>> fit.
>>
>> 1) Are they the same type of drive? Just because they are both in
>> laptops
>> does not automatically mean they are physically interchangeable.
>>
>> 2) The Toshiba install is - per the license - stuck on the Toshiba
>> laptop.
>> Same for the Dell. That is part of the End User license Agreement - as
>> they
>> will both likely be OEM copies of Windows XP.
>>
>> 3) The software (applications) and hardware drivers on the Toshiba
>> install
>> are *for the Toshiba*. The drivers certainly will not work, the
>> applications (many of them - especially those specific to the laptop
>> itself)
>> may not work.
>>
>> 4) Did they both have the same flavor of Windows XP (Home, Professional,
>> etc) installed upon them?
>>
>> From a strictly technical standpoint...
>>
>> While it is possible you could take the hard disk drive out of the
>> Toshiba
>> (if it is of the same type and fits) and change the BIOS settings to the
>> new
>> drive settings, perform a repair installation with an actual Windows XP
>> installation CD (fixing the hardware driver issues somewhat), install the
>> latest hardware drivers from Dell, uninstall the Toshiba specific
>> applications, change the Windows XP Product key from the Toshiba provided
>> one to the Dell provided one and be 'so-so' in the clear. Technically -
>> however - if the programs came installed on the Toshiba (Office, etc) -
>> they
>> may be licensed for an install on the Toshiba and nothing else.
>>
>> It is also possible you could image the drives and instead of
>> flip-flopping
>> the physical hardware, simply apply the images in a way that works the
>> same
>> and do everything after the physical hard disk drive swap I mentioned in
>> the
>> last paragraph and end up in the same boat as previously described.
>>
>> However - to stay 100% within your rights per every conceivable
>> limitation,
>> you should replace the hard disk drive in the Dell with whatever you want
>> (or one that is fully functional (if the one in it is not)) and use the
>> Dell
>> installation method to restore it to the as-purchased state and then - if
>> you have the installation media and transferrable licenses for the
>> programs
>> you wish to utilize - install them on the fresh install of the Dell and
>> go
>> from there.
>>
>> What you cannot do - in accordance with the EULA - is move the license
>> from
>> the Toshiba laptop to anything else. The product key for the Toshiba
>> laptop
>> is specific to that installation. If it cannot be used on that system -
>> it
>> canot be transferred anywhere else. System dies - too bad - you will
>> have
>> to buy a new license of Windows XP if you wish ot use it elsewhere.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>