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Old 07-11-2008, 10:28 AM
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Constant USB noises
My computer is making constant USB noises. THe default plug-in/unplug USB sounds. (Windows XP). THe sounds occur every
few seconds. Each time they do, the USB devices momentarily blink. What is causing my computer to constantly do this?


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Old 07-11-2008, 04:50 PM
Bob I
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
What is plugged in? Perhaps disconnect one item at a time till the issue
stops, then leave that one unplugged.

LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:

> My computer is making constant USB noises. THe default plug-in/unplug USB sounds. (Windows XP). THe sounds occur every
> few seconds. Each time they do, the USB devices momentarily blink. What is causing my computer to constantly do this?
>
>
> Lady Dungeness
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:09 PM
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Re: Constant USB noises
And if you wiggle the device and the sounds stop or get more erratic, it
sounds like dirty or loose connector contacts might be at play (either a bad
connector at the computer or with the device - easy enough to tell which, by
trying out other devices in the same connector and/or other ports on the
computer with the same device, etc).

Bob I wrote:
> What is plugged in? Perhaps disconnect one item at a time till the issue
> stops, then leave that one unplugged.
>
> LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
>
>> My computer is making constant USB noises. THe default plug-in/unplug
>> USB sounds. (Windows XP). THe sounds occur every few seconds. Each
>> time they
>> do, the USB devices momentarily blink. What is causing my computer to
>> constantly do this? Lady Dungeness
>> Out of Danger until September
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:55 PM
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
Hi Bill and Bill,
Thanks for the suggestions. I unplugged the scanner and the noises stopped. This means I need to unplug and plug in
every time I want to use the scanner? That will be inconvenient because of the locations of the USB plugs. Is there another
way?

I'm curious about the cause, too; can this be explained in plain English? Why isn't the computer happy the first time
it finds the scanner?


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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:09:19 -0600, "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>And if you wiggle the device and the sounds stop or get more erratic, it
>sounds like dirty or loose connector contacts might be at play (either a bad
>connector at the computer or with the device - easy enough to tell which, by
>trying out other devices in the same connector and/or other ports on the
>computer with the same device, etc).
>
>Bob I wrote:
>> What is plugged in? Perhaps disconnect one item at a time till the issue
>> stops, then leave that one unplugged.
>>
>> LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
>>
>>> My computer is making constant USB noises. THe default plug-in/unplug
>>> USB sounds. (Windows XP). THe sounds occur every few seconds. Each
>>> time they
>>> do, the USB devices momentarily blink. What is causing my computer to
>>> constantly do this? Lady Dungeness
>>> Out of Danger until September
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>

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Old 07-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Paul
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
> Hi Bill and Bill,
> Thanks for the suggestions. I unplugged the scanner and the noises stopped.
> This means I need to unplug and plug in every time I want to use the scanner?
> That will be inconvenient because of the locations of the USB plugs. Is there another
> way?
>
> I'm curious about the cause, too; can this be explained in plain English? Why
> isn't the computer happy the first time it finds the scanner?
>
>
> Lady Dungeness
> Out of Danger until September


Have you tried a USB port on the back of the computer, for your scanner ?
I'd move the scanner around, and see if there is a port dependency.

If you have further questions, it might help if you mentioned what USB
devices you had, and whether they're all plugged into the front or the
back of the computer. The best ports, electrically speaking, are the
ones on the back of the computer. They should give the least trouble.

For example, if you had a "USB bean warmer" plugged into the same
stack-of-two USB ports as your scanner, it could be that too much
power is being drawn. Some passive (non-enumerable) USB devices,
used to charge batteries and the like, could be overloading things.

Paul
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Bill in Co.
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
Well, as Paul said, try plugging your scanner into another USB port (maybe
on the back of the computer, or whatever) and see if the problem persists.
Try all the ports. If the problem persists on all the ports (assuming you
have several), then it might be that the USB connector on the scanner cable
itself is intermittent (or its contacts are dirty).

I suppose there is a chance it could instead be a software related issue,
but I'd try this out first, to rule it (the possibility of dirty contacts)
out first.

LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
> Hi Bill and Bill,
> Thanks for the suggestions. I unplugged the scanner and the noises
> stopped.
> This means I need to unplug and plug in
> every time I want to use the scanner? That will be inconvenient because
> of
> the locations of the USB plugs. Is there another way?
>
> I'm curious about the cause, too; can this be explained in plain English?
> Why isn't the computer happy the first time
> it finds the scanner?
>
>
> Lady Dungeness
> Out of Danger until September
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:09:19 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> And if you wiggle the device and the sounds stop or get more erratic, it
>> sounds like dirty or loose connector contacts might be at play (either a
>> bad
>> connector at the computer or with the device - easy enough to tell which,
>> by
>> trying out other devices in the same connector and/or other ports on the
>> computer with the same device, etc).
>>
>> Bob I wrote:
>>> What is plugged in? Perhaps disconnect one item at a time till the issue
>>> stops, then leave that one unplugged.
>>>
>>> LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
>>>
>>>> My computer is making constant USB noises. THe default plug-in/unplug
>>>> USB sounds. (Windows XP). THe sounds occur every few seconds. Each
>>>> time they
>>>> do, the USB devices momentarily blink. What is causing my computer to
>>>> constantly do this? Lady Dungeness
>>>> Out of Danger until September
>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~



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Old 07-12-2008, 02:45 PM
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
Thanks guys. It was plugged into the back of the computer. I've been enjoying the "silence" but will do some swapping this
weekend to see what happens. I have the following USB devices:

Scanner
Printer
USB hub > mouse & keyboard

I don't know anything about dependencies. But until I unplugged the new printer, I was getting not only the USB noises, but
screen freezes along with them, to the point that I could not work.

I recall IRQ conflicts -- could a USB printer and a nonusb monitor be sharing the same IRQ and have a conflict that way? Why
else would the USB noises be causing screen freezes?

Thanks


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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:05 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:

>
>Have you tried a USB port on the back of the computer, for your scanner ?
>I'd move the scanner around, and see if there is a port dependency.
>
>If you have further questions, it might help if you mentioned what USB
>devices you had, and whether they're all plugged into the front or the
>back of the computer. The best ports, electrically speaking, are the
>ones on the back of the computer. They should give the least trouble.
>
>For example, if you had a "USB bean warmer" plugged into the same
>stack-of-two USB ports as your scanner, it could be that too much
>power is being drawn. Some passive (non-enumerable) USB devices,
>used to charge batteries and the like, could be overloading things.
>
> Paul

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Old 07-12-2008, 10:15 PM
Paul
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
> Thanks guys. It was plugged into the back of the computer. I've been enjoying the "silence" but will do some swapping this
> weekend to see what happens. I have the following USB devices:
>
> Scanner
> Printer
> USB hub > mouse & keyboard
>
> I don't know anything about dependencies. But until I unplugged the new printer, I was getting not only the USB noises, but
> screen freezes along with them, to the point that I could not work.
>
> I recall IRQ conflicts -- could a USB printer and a nonusb monitor be sharing the same IRQ and have a conflict that way? Why
> else would the USB noises be causing screen freezes?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Lady Dungeness
> Out of Danger until September


I tried a few searches, and I can match your symptoms (other people suffer
from this as well). But so far, no confirmed solutions, just well meaning
suggestions.

There are apparently, developer programs that can be purchased, that
show each event on the USB bus. But even if you possessed one of those,
it still might not be possible to determine why it happens. So I'm
not going there :-(

If you want to avoid wearing out the USB plug, you can purchase
a "USB switch", which gives you a button to push when you want
to reconfigure things. (You can set up the switch, to connect or
disconnect the printer.) Although some are so cheaply made, that
the button wears out. If you're interested, have a look on Newegg,
and read the reviews, as the reviewers will mention the bad
button(s) if they're present on the model in question.

Some printers contain more than a printer, and include a card
reader (and possibly a hub chip inside the printer, to make
that possible). But that is not an excuse for it not working,
as a user could just as easily assemble those components
individually, on any computer. It should just work.

Paul

>
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:05 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried a USB port on the back of the computer, for your scanner ?
>> I'd move the scanner around, and see if there is a port dependency.
>>
>> If you have further questions, it might help if you mentioned what USB
>> devices you had, and whether they're all plugged into the front or the
>> back of the computer. The best ports, electrically speaking, are the
>> ones on the back of the computer. They should give the least trouble.
>>
>> For example, if you had a "USB bean warmer" plugged into the same
>> stack-of-two USB ports as your scanner, it could be that too much
>> power is being drawn. Some passive (non-enumerable) USB devices,
>> used to charge batteries and the like, could be overloading things.
>>
>> Paul

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Old 07-12-2008, 10:30 PM
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
Wow! Thanks so much for looking around on this issue. I'll look into the switch. I'm hoping not to have to move things
around. Right now, the CPU is on the desktop. Once it goes into the cubbyhole in the desk, it will be very hard to access
any of the ports on the back. So I'm trying to get everything functioning properly beforehand.


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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:15:32 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:

>
>I tried a few searches, and I can match your symptoms (other people suffer
>from this as well). But so far, no confirmed solutions, just well meaning
>suggestions.
>
>There are apparently, developer programs that can be purchased, that
>show each event on the USB bus. But even if you possessed one of those,
>it still might not be possible to determine why it happens. So I'm
>not going there :-(
>
>If you want to avoid wearing out the USB plug, you can purchase
>a "USB switch", which gives you a button to push when you want
>to reconfigure things. (You can set up the switch, to connect or
>disconnect the printer.) Although some are so cheaply made, that
>the button wears out. If you're interested, have a look on Newegg,
>and read the reviews, as the reviewers will mention the bad
>button(s) if they're present on the model in question.
>
>Some printers contain more than a printer, and include a card
>reader (and possibly a hub chip inside the printer, to make
>that possible). But that is not an excuse for it not working,
>as a user could just as easily assemble those components
>individually, on any computer. It should just work.
>
> Paul
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:05 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried a USB port on the back of the computer, for your scanner ?
>>> I'd move the scanner around, and see if there is a port dependency.
>>>
>>> If you have further questions, it might help if you mentioned what USB
>>> devices you had, and whether they're all plugged into the front or the
>>> back of the computer. The best ports, electrically speaking, are the
>>> ones on the back of the computer. They should give the least trouble.
>>>
>>> For example, if you had a "USB bean warmer" plugged into the same
>>> stack-of-two USB ports as your scanner, it could be that too much
>>> power is being drawn. Some passive (non-enumerable) USB devices,
>>> used to charge batteries and the like, could be overloading things.
>>>
>>> Paul

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Old 07-13-2008, 01:15 AM
Paul
 
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Re: Constant USB noises
LadyDungeness@Fish.Net wrote:
> Wow! Thanks so much for looking around on this issue. I'll look into the switch. I'm hoping not to have to move things
> around. Right now, the CPU is on the desktop. Once it goes into the cubbyhole in the desk, it will be very hard to access
> any of the ports on the back. So I'm trying to get everything functioning properly beforehand.
>
>
> Lady Dungeness
> Out of Danger until September
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


As an example, this USB switch, allows up to four computers
to share one peripheral. For your situation, only one
computer would be connected. You select "computer 1" when
you wanted to use the printer, and "computer 2, 3, or 4"
when you wanted to stop the annoying USB connect noise.

SIIG JU-SW4112-S2 USB 2.0 Switch 4-to-1 - Retail $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812191012

There is only one review posted there, so it is hard to say
whether the buttons on that one work good or not. Some
other devices like that, the buttons only last for a year
or so of light usage.

Paul
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