USB hard drive docking station

In article <#8zrMFNbIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>
>"a.m. Lason" <amlason@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4uo0r3pt829e3994rq758u7hk5c7tu6j05@4ax.com.. .
>> Christmas day my PC crashed and I originally thought it was my primary
>> hard drive so I took it to the geek squad at Best Buy to have it
>> checked out and they told me yes it was bad so I bought a replacement.
>>
>> After checking further I've found that my power supply had burned out.
>> Being that I had already purchased a new hard drive I reinstalled
>> Windows XP Home on it.
>>
>> Since then I got to thinking that maybe the original hard drive was
>> not damaged because my secondary hard drive was okay.
>>
>> What I would like to do is get a USB hard drive docking station in
>> order to check out the old hard drive. Although I had Norton Ghost
>> and a carbon copy on my secondary drive I was unable to access it and
>> it was useless.
>>
>> I figure, by using the USB hard drive docking station I might be able
>> to boot to the old hard drive and possibly retrieve my data that I
>> lost in the crash.
>>
>> Any and all comments would be appreciated.
>>
>> .
>> Albert
>
>
>Albert:
>Can we assume that when you refer to a "USB hard drive docking station"
>you're referring to a typical run-of-the-mill USB external enclosure?
>
>Assuming that is the case...while it's probably desirable for you to have a
>USB enclosure (they're cheap enough nowadays) so as to install a HDD in that
>enclosure and use the device in a routine comprehensive backup system
>together with your Ghost or other disk-cloning program...I don't think it
>would be necessary merely to try to access the data on your problem HDD.
>First of all it wouldn't be bootable in a USB external HDD even if the drive
>contained a non-corrupted bootable version of the XP OS.
What are you talking about anna? I have a bootable USB hard drive enclosure
that i regularly boot a copy of XP on for testing purposes. If the Bios
supports booting from a USB device, you can most certainly do it. I also have
Ubuntu linux on a second HD in another enclosure.

I also have XP fully installed on a 4GB flash drive
>
>Why can't you simply install that HDD as a secondary HDD in your PC, boot to
>your new HDD and see if you can access the data on the problem HDD that way?
>Or, assuming the disk is non-defective and contains a non-corrupted bootable
>XP OS, why not simply install it as your boot drive to determine if it is
>bootable?
>
>Of course, I'm assuming in all this that you have sufficient experience to
>get inside your computer case to accomplish this. It's certainly not a
>difficult process.
>Anna
>
>

In article <0db1r3lhlfbnjocgt87m6324u2trih44rd@4ax.com>, Albert Lason <amlason@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:53:10 -0800 (PST), smlunatick
><yveslec@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Which power supply burnt out, PC or hard drive? If the PC, then Best
>>Buy would not have been able to see the PC booting.
>>
>>If you are talking about a burnt out hard drive power supply, then no
>>matter what USB enclosure you will buy, you will never be able to
>>access the hard drive. USB enclosures still require the hard drive's
>>power supply access to work.
>
>The PC power supply is what burnout that's why I think the original
>primary drive might still work contrary to what Best Buy told me.
>After that geek guy told me that it was bad and I told him that I was
>going to buy a new one he grabbed the old one off the counter and
>started to take off with it until I stopped him and told him I wanted
>to keep it.
>
>The tower that I have originally had a 235 W power supply and when I
>added a DVD burner Christmas I'm pretty sure it overloaded the system
>and burned out the power supply which was replaced which I replaced
>with a 485 W unit.
If it was the power supply and "not" HD that was bad, why did you let them
talk you into buying a new HD for your system? They took you for a ride in
their geekmobile!!!!!

In article <s3u9r3d6u8oomb4g9b382s5o1mfbc8vfqm@4ax.com>, Albert <amlason@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:51:03 -0800 (PST), smlunatick
><yveslec@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>snipped
>>
>>If you just boot this PC with only this hard drive and one CD/DVD
>>drive then there would little worry of "screwing" up your PC. Only
>>this hard drive would be screwed up.
>
>Bottom line;
>
>I replace the new primary hard drive with the old one and put
>everything back the way it was before the power supply burnt out. The
>computer would not even boot up into the bios the start button was
>useless. So apparently the old primary hard drive is gone, now the
>question is is economically feasible and or possible to get the data
>that I would like to have. Before I do that I'm going to wait until I
>receive the new hard drive enclosure that I'm going to order and
>doublecheck the old hard drive.
>
>I do want to say that I appreciate all the help. I found out what I
>needed to know and learned a lot from everyone's suggestions.
>
>Thank you all
>..
>Albert
I have recoverd the data off of an old drive by buying a very cheap exact
replacement of the drive i had off Ebay and then performing surgery by
removing the burnt out circuit board off of the bad drive and putting the good
board from the ebay drive onto it. Not for the weak of heart.

> In article <#8zrMFNbIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Anna"
> <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>"a.m. Lason" <amlason@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4uo0r3pt829e3994rq758u7hk5c7tu6j05@4ax.com. ..
>>> Christmas day my PC crashed and I originally thought it was my primary
>>> hard drive so I took it to the geek squad at Best Buy to have it
>>> checked out and they told me yes it was bad so I bought a replacement.
>>>
>>> After checking further I've found that my power supply had burned out.
>>> Being that I had already purchased a new hard drive I reinstalled
>>> Windows XP Home on it.
>>>
>>> Since then I got to thinking that maybe the original hard drive was
>>> not damaged because my secondary hard drive was okay.
>>>
>>> What I would like to do is get a USB hard drive docking station in
>>> order to check out the old hard drive. Although I had Norton Ghost
>>> and a carbon copy on my secondary drive I was unable to access it and
>>> it was useless.
>>>
>>> I figure, by using the USB hard drive docking station I might be able
>>> to boot to the old hard drive and possibly retrieve my data that I
>>> lost in the crash.
>>>
>>> Any and all comments would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> .
>>> Albert
>>
>>
>>Albert:
>>Can we assume that when you refer to a "USB hard drive docking station"
>>you're referring to a typical run-of-the-mill USB external enclosure?
>>
>>Assuming that is the case...while it's probably desirable for you to have
>>a
>>USB enclosure (they're cheap enough nowadays) so as to install a HDD in
>>that
>>enclosure and use the device in a routine comprehensive backup system
>>together with your Ghost or other disk-cloning program...I don't think it
>>would be necessary merely to try to access the data on your problem HDD.
>>First of all it wouldn't be bootable in a USB external HDD even if the
>>drive
>>contained a non-corrupted bootable version of the XP OS.
>
> I also have XP fully installed on a 4GB flash drive
>>
>>Why can't you simply install that HDD as a secondary HDD in your PC, boot
>>to
>>your new HDD and see if you can access the data on the problem HDD that
>>way?
>>Or, assuming the disk is non-defective and contains a non-corrupted
>>bootable
>>XP OS, why not simply install it as your boot drive to determine if it is
>>bootable?
>>
>>Of course, I'm assuming in all this that you have sufficient experience to
>>get inside your computer case to accomplish this. It's certainly not a
>>difficult process.
>>Anna


"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
news:fpc7ue$nr5$4@news.xmission.com...
> What are you talking about anna? I have a bootable USB hard drive
> enclosure
> that i regularly boot a copy of XP on for testing purposes. If the Bios
> supports booting from a USB device, you can most certainly do it. I also
> have
> Ubuntu linux on a second HD in another enclosure.


GMAN:
I am glad to hear that you're able to boot to an XP OS while such is
contained in a USB external HDD enclosure. We have never been able to do so
(except in a very few cases that turned out to be unreliable). And we have
worked with a large number of motherboards that presumably supported USB
boot capability.

I am aware of a number of reports, similar to yours, where the user reported
an ability to boot XP from a USB external device, but by & large that
capability has eluded us.

Would you be good enough to inform me of the make & model of the motherboard
you're working with together with the make & model of your USB external
enclosure? And any other details that you may care to include? Thanks much.
Anna

In article <#NSAnMlcIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>> In article <#8zrMFNbIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Anna"
>> <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"a.m. Lason" <amlason@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4uo0r3pt829e3994rq758u7hk5c7tu6j05@4ax.com ...
>>>> Christmas day my PC crashed and I originally thought it was my primary
>>>> hard drive so I took it to the geek squad at Best Buy to have it
>>>> checked out and they told me yes it was bad so I bought a replacement.
>>>>
>>>> After checking further I've found that my power supply had burned out.
>>>> Being that I had already purchased a new hard drive I reinstalled
>>>> Windows XP Home on it.
>>>>
>>>> Since then I got to thinking that maybe the original hard drive was
>>>> not damaged because my secondary hard drive was okay.
>>>>
>>>> What I would like to do is get a USB hard drive docking station in
>>>> order to check out the old hard drive. Although I had Norton Ghost
>>>> and a carbon copy on my secondary drive I was unable to access it and
>>>> it was useless.
>>>>
>>>> I figure, by using the USB hard drive docking station I might be able
>>>> to boot to the old hard drive and possibly retrieve my data that I
>>>> lost in the crash.
>>>>
>>>> Any and all comments would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> Albert
>>>
>>>
>>>Albert:
>>>Can we assume that when you refer to a "USB hard drive docking station"
>>>you're referring to a typical run-of-the-mill USB external enclosure?
>>>
>>>Assuming that is the case...while it's probably desirable for you to have
>>>a
>>>USB enclosure (they're cheap enough nowadays) so as to install a HDD in
>>>that
>>>enclosure and use the device in a routine comprehensive backup system
>>>together with your Ghost or other disk-cloning program...I don't think it
>>>would be necessary merely to try to access the data on your problem HDD.
>>>First of all it wouldn't be bootable in a USB external HDD even if the
>>>drive
>>>contained a non-corrupted bootable version of the XP OS.
>>
>> I also have XP fully installed on a 4GB flash drive
>>>
>>>Why can't you simply install that HDD as a secondary HDD in your PC, boot
>>>to
>>>your new HDD and see if you can access the data on the problem HDD that
>>>way?
>>>Or, assuming the disk is non-defective and contains a non-corrupted
>>>bootable
>>>XP OS, why not simply install it as your boot drive to determine if it is
>>>bootable?
>>>
>>>Of course, I'm assuming in all this that you have sufficient experience to
>>>get inside your computer case to accomplish this. It's certainly not a
>>>difficult process.
>>>Anna
>
>
>"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
>news:fpc7ue$nr5$4@news.xmission.com...
>> What are you talking about anna? I have a bootable USB hard drive
>> enclosure
>> that i regularly boot a copy of XP on for testing purposes. If the Bios
>> supports booting from a USB device, you can most certainly do it. I also
>> have
>> Ubuntu linux on a second HD in another enclosure.
>
>
>GMAN:
>I am glad to hear that you're able to boot to an XP OS while such is
>contained in a USB external HDD enclosure. We have never been able to do so
>(except in a very few cases that turned out to be unreliable). And we have
>worked with a large number of motherboards that presumably supported USB
>boot capability.
>
>I am aware of a number of reports, similar to yours, where the user reported
>an ability to boot XP from a USB external device, but by & large that
>capability has eluded us.
>
>Would you be good enough to inform me of the make & model of the motherboard
>you're working with together with the make & model of your USB external
>enclosure? And any other details that you may care to include? Thanks much.
>Anna
>
>
>
Yes, its the ASUS Commando motherboard (Socket 775)


The external HD enclosure is an ME-340 USB2/IEEE1394 capable enclosure
www.anywarus.com seems to be the manufacturer of the case

http://www.anywareus.com/products/enclosures/me340.html



But are sold under many different brands, just a few of them below.

http://www.computercareus.com/produc...modelcode=2703
http://shopping.msn.com/Reviews/shp/?itemId=56387776

(GMAN responding to my comment that in our experience a USB external HDD is
not bootable in an XP environment)...

>>"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
>>news:fpc7ue$nr5$4@news.xmission.com...
>>> What are you talking about anna? I have a bootable USB hard drive
>>> enclosure
>>> that i regularly boot a copy of XP on for testing purposes. If the Bios
>>> supports booting from a USB device, you can most certainly do it. I also
>>> have
>>> Ubuntu linux on a second HD in another enclosure.


>>"Anna" wote...
>>GMAN:
>>I am glad to hear that you're able to boot to an XP OS while such is
>>contained in a USB external HDD enclosure. We have never been able to do
>>so
>>(except in a very few cases that turned out to be unreliable). And we have
>>worked with a large number of motherboards that presumably supported USB
>>boot capability.
>>
>>I am aware of a number of reports, similar to yours, where the user
>>reported
>>an ability to boot XP from a USB external device, but by & large that
>>capability has eluded us.
>>
>>Would you be good enough to inform me of the make & model of the
>>motherboard
>>you're working with together with the make & model of your USB external
>>enclosure? And any other details that you may care to include? Thanks
>>much.
>>Anna


"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
news:fpf3v9$qko$4@news.xmission.com...
> Yes, its the ASUS Commando motherboard (Socket 775)
> The external HD enclosure is an ME-340 USB2/IEEE1394 capable enclosure
> www.anywarus.com seems to be the manufacturer of the case
>
> http://www.anywareus.com/products/enclosures/me340.html
>
> But are sold under many different brands, just a few of them below.
>
> http://www.computercareus.com/produc...modelcode=2703
> http://shopping.msn.com/Reviews/shp/?itemId=56387776


GMAN:
Thanks for the info. While we've worked with a fairly wide variety of ASUS
motherboards, we haven't worked with that particular one. I note it uses the
Intel P965 Express ICH8DH chipset so possibly that's a factor in achieving
boot capability with a USBEHD. I'll certainly look into it. Thanks again.
Anna

In article <O0D8mMycIHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>
>(GMAN responding to my comment that in our experience a USB external HDD is
>not bootable in an XP environment)...
>
>>>"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fpc7ue$nr5$4@news.xmission.com...
>>>> What are you talking about anna? I have a bootable USB hard drive
>>>> enclosure
>>>> that i regularly boot a copy of XP on for testing purposes. If the Bios
>>>> supports booting from a USB device, you can most certainly do it. I also
>>>> have
>>>> Ubuntu linux on a second HD in another enclosure.
>
>
>>>"Anna" wote...
>>>GMAN:
>>>I am glad to hear that you're able to boot to an XP OS while such is
>>>contained in a USB external HDD enclosure. We have never been able to do
>>>so
>>>(except in a very few cases that turned out to be unreliable). And we have
>>>worked with a large number of motherboards that presumably supported USB
>>>boot capability.
>>>
>>>I am aware of a number of reports, similar to yours, where the user
>>>reported
>>>an ability to boot XP from a USB external device, but by & large that
>>>capability has eluded us.
>>>
>>>Would you be good enough to inform me of the make & model of the
>>>motherboard
>>>you're working with together with the make & model of your USB external
>>>enclosure? And any other details that you may care to include? Thanks
>>>much.
>>>Anna
>
>
>"GMAN" <glenzabr@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
>news:fpf3v9$qko$4@news.xmission.com...
>> Yes, its the ASUS Commando motherboard (Socket 775)
>> The external HD enclosure is an ME-340 USB2/IEEE1394 capable enclosure
>> www.anywarus.com seems to be the manufacturer of the case
>>
>> http://www.anywareus.com/products/enclosures/me340.html
>>
>> But are sold under many different brands, just a few of them below.
>>
>> http://www.computercareus.com/produc...modelcode=2703
>> http://shopping.msn.com/Reviews/shp/?itemId=56387776
>
>
>GMAN:
>Thanks for the info. While we've worked with a fairly wide variety of ASUS
>motherboards, we haven't worked with that particular one. I note it uses the
>Intel P965 Express ICH8DH chipset so possibly that's a factor in achieving
>boot capability with a USBEHD. I'll certainly look into it. Thanks again.
>Anna
>
>
I have been able to boot with a USB hard drive ever since the ICH6 chipset