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Old 02-19-2008, 06:32 PM
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Repairing hard drives
I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.

I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.

I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
their controller boards.

Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?

Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
model number? I have received differing local advice.

TIA

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Old 02-19-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: Repairing hard drives
In article <OR0vCcycIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote:
>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
>
>I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
>have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.
>
>I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
>their controller boards.
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>Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
>Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?
>
>Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
>model number? I have received differing local advice.
>
>TIA
>
>Avatar
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They need to be the same model and capacity. It usually doesnt matter if its a
slight firmware revision but it must be the same drive basically.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: Repairing hard drives
In article <OR0vCcycIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote:
>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
>
>I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
>have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.
>
>I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
>their controller boards.
>
>Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
>Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?
>
>Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
>model number? I have received differing local advice.
>
>TIA
>
>Avatar
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You are also going to need to purchase some small Torx screwdrivers with the
proper head to remove the circuit board.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: Repairing hard drives
Avatar wrote:
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> I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
> their controller boards.


People sell stuff that doesn't work on Ebay...






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Old 02-19-2008, 11:12 PM
Ed Covney
 
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Re: Repairing hard drives
> Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
> Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?


Contact Seagate and/or Maxtor - The "controllers" are likely
on your motherboard. The interface cards mounted on the
bottom of the drives contain the drive's "bad track data" which
is different (data content) for every drive.

Swapping the cards may work for a few selected files. Don't
expect to recover everything.

Good luck beating Murphy.

Ed


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Old 02-19-2008, 11:43 PM
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Re: Repairing hard drives
"Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote in message
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>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
>
> I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
> have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.
>
> I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
> their controller boards.
>
> Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
> Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?
>
> Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
> model number? I have received differing local advice.
>
> TIA
>
> Avatar
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Thanks for the informative responses! I much appreciate the pointers.

I already have the screwdriver required for the purpose!

Regards.

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:52 PM
Patrick Keenan
 
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Re: Repairing hard drives
"Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote in message
news:OR0vCcycIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
>
> I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
> have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.
>
> I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to use
> their controller boards.
>
> Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
> Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?
>
> Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
> model number? I have received differing local advice.
>
> TIA
>
> Avatar
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How valuable is the data?

If it's actually valuable, it may be a better plan to take them to a
recovery service that has the hardware built for this purpose. All will
give estimates (usually based on the quantity of data) but since estimates
may require working on the drive, they sometimes aren't free.

HTH
-pk

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Old 02-20-2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: Repairing hard drives
Regarding recovering the data I've had success with Ontrack's Easy Recovery
Pro and HDD Regenerator, the latter apparently repairing 100's of bad
sectors and leaving the drive in full working order.

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"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote in message
> news:OR0vCcycIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
>>
>> I need to access the contents of two storage hard drives that apparently
>> have working mechanics but likely defective controller boards.
>>
>> I am planning to purchase similar drives (working) on eBay in order to
>> use
>> their controller boards.
>>
>> Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
>> Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?
>>
>> Or is it necessary that I purchase drives with identical capacity besides
>> model number? I have received differing local advice.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Avatar
>> -------

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> How valuable is the data?
>
> If it's actually valuable, it may be a better plan to take them to a
> recovery service that has the hardware built for this purpose. All will
> give estimates (usually based on the quantity of data) but since estimates
> may require working on the drive, they sometimes aren't free.
>
> HTH
> -pk



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Old 02-20-2008, 11:42 AM
Bob Willard
 
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Re: Repairing hard drives
Ed Covney wrote:
>>Is it sufficient to get a similar model number (Seagate IDE 7200.8 and
>>Maxtor IDE DiamondMax 16, in this case) so their controllers can be used?

>
>
> Contact Seagate and/or Maxtor - The "controllers" are likely
> on your motherboard.


In more conventional terminology, the controller for a HD has been
integrated with the HD for many years; that's the bulk of the
logic on the bottom of the HD. The MB contains the HBA (Host
Bus Adapter), which translates from an internal bus (e.g., PCI)
to an external bus (e.g., PATA/IDE or SATA), and the HD's controller
connects to that external bus. The controller controls the position
of the arm on which the R/W heads are mounted (hence the name), and
extracts data from the itty-bitty read signal (hence the magic).

The interface cards mounted on the
> bottom of the drives contain the drive's "bad track data" which
> is different (data content) for every drive.
>
> Swapping the cards may work for a few selected files. Don't
> expect to recover everything.
>
> Good luck beating Murphy.


I certainly agree with that.
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:14 PM
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"Avatar" <avatar@uinverse.brane> wrote in message
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>I apologize for this not-really-a-WindowsXP-question.
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The data is important - actually the intent is to get to a couple of
specific folders in both the drives - both are 300 GB, BTW.

I am also pricing out a commercial data recovery service as a possible
option, weighing in both costs as well as work required.

Thanks and regards.

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