Erasing(formating) disk - xp licence ?

I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP sp2
is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key . Is
there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's say e.g.
to clone it ?

Majki Majk wrote:
> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP sp2
> is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key . Is
> there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's say e.g.
> to clone it ?
Sure, Clone it!

Big_Al wrote:
> Majki Majk wrote:
>> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP
>> sp2 is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key
>> . Is there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's
>> say e.g. to clone it ?
> Sure, Clone it!
All cloning will do is give you the same stuff you want to get rid of.
One advantage is that when you screw it up...that is, fail to navigate
M$ anti-piracy roadblocks, you'll still have what you started with on
the other disk.

Jellybean keyfinder will tell you the license key.
SIW is another interesting program that will log all sorts of stuff.
Save the wpa.dbl file.

But you've got other issues. Where are you gonna get the new OS?
And will it work with your key on your hardware?
M$ has installed MANY hurdles to your installing the OS.

mike wrote:
<snip>
> But you've got other issues. Where are you gonna get the new OS?
> And will it work with your key on your hardware?
> M$ has installed MANY hurdles to your installing the OS.

Admittedly - there are devices in place in order to check if things are on
the "up and up"... And those devices can and do go astray on occassion - but
many?

Literally - to install:
- Product Key (which includes the license agreement type and therefore - cd
type/version.)
- Agree to the EULA (which could be considered a part of the above.)

To install and continuing to utilize:
- Product Key (which includes the license agreement type and therefore - cd
type/version.)
- Agree to the EULA (which could be considered a part of the above.)
- WGA

Again, many?

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Majki Majk wrote:
> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP
> sp2 is installed on the disk which was activated over the license
> key . Is there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed,
> let's say e.g. to clone it ?

I do not understand your needs in this case.

You say you want to clean the HDD - format it.

If taken literally - you want nothing on it at all. No operating system,
nothing. I would assume you are getting a new hard disk drive and eitrher
wish to use this as a secondary drive or in an external hard disk drive case
or something? You have at least a couple of choices.
- You can make an image of the partition(s) on the drive to save for later
and/or to apply to your new hard disk drive that will become your boot
drive.
- You can just back up your important stuff (files/folders) and then wipe
the whole drive in whatever means you feel comfortable with.

Then you go on to say you want to preserve the activated and licensed copy
of Windows XP... Here's where you have me confused. Do you want to wipe
the disk for use elsewhere or what?

Are you thinking you want a clean installation of Windows XP on that disk or
some other disk in that machine? If so - you can install from your
installation media and use your product key and activate it again. There is
no limitation on this - you can use your legitimate copy/license of Windows
XP and install/activate it on the same machine every day if you so desire -
although you will probably have to start activating by telephone. heh

If it is an OEM copy and you are thinking you wan to move it to a new
machine - from the EULA (End User License Agreement) of that type of license
(OEM) - you cannot. It is non-transferrable. It is forever tied to the
first machine it was installed and activated upon. If that machine bursts
into flames but the CD and CD key were safely tucked away elsewhere - by the
strict guidelines of the EULA - you should burn them too.

Essentially - if you could explain what it is you are attemptig to get to -
what is the goal - perhaps someone here can provide you with more focussed
guidance.

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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Majki Majk" wrote in <news:g32v50$3mn$1@news1.carnet.hr>:

> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP sp2
> is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key . Is
> there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's say e.g.
> to clone it ?

Think abour your post. You omitted something critical.

Just how are you going to wipe a hard disk and then try to keep any OS,
activated or not, on it? You aren't, but then you didn't mention what
you really intend to do.

mike wrote:
> Big_Al wrote:
>> Majki Majk wrote:
>>> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP
>>> sp2 is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key
>>> . Is there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's
>>> say e.g. to clone it ?
>> Sure, Clone it!
> All cloning will do is give you the same stuff you want to get rid of.
> One advantage is that when you screw it up...that is, fail to navigate
> M$ anti-piracy roadblocks, you'll still have what you started with on
> the other disk.
>
> Jellybean keyfinder will tell you the license key.
> SIW is another interesting program that will log all sorts of stuff.
> Save the wpa.dbl file.
>
> But you've got other issues. Where are you gonna get the new OS?
> And will it work with your key on your hardware?
> M$ has installed MANY hurdles to your installing the OS.

*I would like that WinXP OS stays on the other(cloned) disk so i can
boot it the same way i was previously on the same computer but with
other hdd. Just figuring out theoretically how is this possible to do.
The second disk is the same capacity although not the same version nor
manufacturer. The second disk as cloned would serve me to put it into
computer(if first one fails)and to continue to work.

*Aha, about the first issue...i have a disk 30gb with OS XP from other
computer....i use it as external disk...XP OS2 is installed on it,
curiously, will the system boot from this disk ? The whole system is up,
so don't understand can that OS from the disk be usable?

*To add: The thing which concerns both issues is that i'm trying to
understand too is there a way to install windows xp on some HDD and then
use this drive on various computers as a boot system in an external casing?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Majki Majk wrote:
>> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP
>> sp2 is installed on the disk which was activated over the license
>> key . Is there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed,
>> let's say e.g. to clone it ?
>
> I do not understand your needs in this case.
>
> You say you want to clean the HDD - format it.
>
> If taken literally - you want nothing on it at all. No operating system,
> nothing. I would assume you are getting a new hard disk drive and eitrher
> wish to use this as a secondary drive or in an external hard disk drive case
> or something? You have at least a couple of choices.
> - You can make an image of the partition(s) on the drive to save for later
> and/or to apply to your new hard disk drive that will become your boot
> drive.
> - You can just back up your important stuff (files/folders) and then wipe
> the whole drive in whatever means you feel comfortable with.
>
> Then you go on to say you want to preserve the activated and licensed copy
> of Windows XP... Here's where you have me confused. Do you want to wipe
> the disk for use elsewhere or what?
>
> Are you thinking you want a clean installation of Windows XP on that disk or
> some other disk in that machine? If so - you can install from your
> installation media and use your product key and activate it again. There is
> no limitation on this - you can use your legitimate copy/license of Windows
> XP and install/activate it on the same machine every day if you so desire -
> although you will probably have to start activating by telephone. heh
>
> If it is an OEM copy and you are thinking you wan to move it to a new
> machine - from the EULA (End User License Agreement) of that type of license
> (OEM) - you cannot. It is non-transferrable. It is forever tied to the
> first machine it was installed and activated upon. If that machine bursts
> into flames but the CD and CD key were safely tucked away elsewhere - by the
> strict guidelines of the EULA - you should burn them too.
>
> Essentially - if you could explain what it is you are attemptig to get to -
> what is the goal - perhaps someone here can provide you with more focussed
> guidance.
>

What You are generally saying is when installed winXP on some HDD on
some computer and it's mootherboard, there isn't a way to use the same
disk on some other computer which doesn't have a HDD because the WInXp
wouldn't boot from that computer ?

I thought the WIndows generally are self-adaptive on some way ?

VanguardLH wrote:
> "Majki Majk" wrote in <news:g32v50$3mn$1@news1.carnet.hr>:
>
>> I would like to clean HDD, to format it, i don't longer need it. XP sp2
>> is installed on the disk which was activated over the license key . Is
>> there a way to preserve OS XP SP2 activated and licensed, let's say e.g.
>> to clone it ?
>
> Think abour your post. You omitted something critical.
>
> Just how are you going to wipe a hard disk and then try to keep any OS,
> activated or not, on it? You aren't, but then you didn't mention what
> you really intend to do.


What You are generally saying is when installed winXP on some HDD on
some computer and it's mootherboard, there isn't a way to use the same
disk on some other computer which doesn't have a HDD because the WInXp
wouldn't boot from that computer ?

I thought the WIndows generally are self-adaptive on some way ?

Ok, let's simplify the things...if i got three computers, all with HDDs
which are formatted and empty how to find which version of Windows(or
some other OS) they have(i.e. which product key they contain) ?

Then i suppose i would use yellybean to restore the key and inastall
that OS which the motherboard contain ??

<snipped>

Majki Majk wrote:
<snip>
> Ok, let's simplify the things...if i got three computers, all with
> HDDs which are formatted and empty how to find which version of
> Windows(or some other OS) they have(i.e. which product key they
> contain) ?

Magic Jellybean Keyfinder...
Belarc Advisor...
Some other application that when ran can give you what is installed and the
product keys.

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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
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