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Old 07-10-2008, 09:56 AM
King Harry
 
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Re: Failure To Recognize DV Camera
The Sony DVC is a known working device (it works on another PC). I am running
WinXP Media Editon SP3. No Vista on PC. Machine is out-of-warranty (purchased
12/06).
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"LVTravel" wrote:

> I am not absolutely sure that is your problem but I would try to plug in a
> different known working device.
>
> In looking over your post I see the machine is probably a relatively new
> one. Does this machine have Vista on it and is it still under warranty by
> Dell (1 year appears to be standard on their web site for this machine)?
>
> If still under warranty I would now call Dell and see what they suggest.
>
>
> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
> news:u0jnDFa4IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Understand what you said; since the Sony DVC is recognized by another
> > WinXP PC when I plug it in I guess I can assume (bad word I know) that the
> > port on my PC is faulty. Other than to plug in the Sony, I have never used
> > the Firewire port so I wouldn't have found out that it was faulty.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
> > news:urNCZRR4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> If the camera, cable and host controller are all working, the only thing
> >> that I can think of is that you have a bad physical port on the computer.
> >> While I have never had a Firewire port go bad I have had USB ports have
> >> internal connection problems where if I moved the connector just so, a
> >> connection was made but if I released the connector the connection would
> >> be lost.
> >>
> >> Have you tried any other Firewire device in the port? That is your next
> >> step to determine cause. Check around for some device that you can insert
> >> to see if it works. I use Firewire external hard drives for storing my
> >> video files from my laptops so maybe you can find one to test.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OKfbHQP4IHA.3576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> And the saga continues. I have a new working Firewire cable and I know
> >>> the Sony DVC is operating as I connected it to another PC and the device
> >>> was recognized. When I connected the Sony to the IEEE 1394 port on my PC
> >>> (Dell XPS 210) it was not recognized. The device does not appear under
> >>> Imaging Devices in Device Manager. Under the heading IEEE 1394 Bus Host
> >>> Controller is shown Texas Instrument OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
> >>> Controller with NO Yellow warning icon. Device Manager says it is
> >>> working correctly. (I am now running WinXP Media Edition SP3 but same
> >>> thing occurred under SP2.) Advice, please.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is prematurely
> >>> disappointed in the future...
> >>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:%237zPzXk3IHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Hope you get it working. Let us know what you find out and if you
> >>>> still can't get it working write back and we will all try to help..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:%23iZ97uh3IHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Thank you for all the good info and links. I'll check everything out
> >>>>> and let you know. BTW, I just updated from SP2 to SP3 and the PC still
> >>>>> doesn't recognize the DV camera.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interestingly enough, I recently connected my Sony DV camera through
> >>>>> an IEEE 1394 device on another PC (running SP2) and everything worked
> >>>>> very well. I'm now 8000 miles away from that PC and the cable I used
> >>>>> so I'll have to do the whole troubleshooting process. Anyway, thanks
> >>>>> again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Harry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is
> >>>>> prematurely disappointed in the future...
> >>>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:eM1jcYc3IHA.5112@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Never trust anything a brand new cable can be faulty as can a 10 year
> >>>>>> old one which worked yesterday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You must test all the components with ones you can see working in
> >>>>>> front of your eyes, so beg/steal/borrow a cam/pc and cable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Again, Device manager will tell you if the firewire port is error
> >>>>>> free in connection etc, but not error free physically.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...notCapture.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Graham Hughes
> >>>>>> MVP Digital Media
> >>>>>> www.myvideoproblems.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:eqWb3VV3IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> Yes to all you said. There is no error indicator under the IEEE 1394
> >>>>>>> Bus host controller. Device manager says device is working properly.
> >>>>>>> Cable is brand new (Belkin).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -------------------------...A cynic does not read bitter lessons
> >>>>>>> from the past; he is prematurely disappointed in the future...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:u2yn3jU3IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "King Harry" <bitterbrush@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:C95E83CA-032B-4F11-A27F-3B764D5F50D4@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>>>> For a reason unknown to me, I am unable to import digital video
> >>>>>>>>> from my Sony
> >>>>>>>>> DCR-PC9. I connect to my PC from The camera via a Firewire
> >>>>>>>>> (IEEE1394), 6 pin
> >>>>>>>>> to 4 pin. I am using WinXpMedia Edition. Keep getting on-screen
> >>>>>>>>> message that
> >>>>>>>>> the input device cannot be found. Any ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Against stupidity even the Gods themselves battle in vain.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lets look at the obvious first. Camera turned on and in playback
> >>>>>>>> mode? Absolutely sure the cable is good and plugged in all the way?
> >>>>>>>> Can you see the Firewire card/adaptor in Device manager under "IEEE
> >>>>>>>> 1394 Bus host controllers" without any error indication (yellow !)?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:37 PM
Harry Williams
 
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Re: Failure To Recognize DV Camera
OK, just discovered that the rear IEEE 1394 port on my PC is working...front
port is not. Presume bad Firewire connection on front card as the 2 USB
ports on that card are both working well. I'll open the case and
jiggle/re-seat card and see what happens. Thanks for your patience and
responses. Cheers.

--
....A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is prematurely
disappointed in the future...


"LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:eBRW%23Jg4IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I am not absolutely sure that is your problem but I would try to plug in a
>different known working device.
>
> In looking over your post I see the machine is probably a relatively new
> one. Does this machine have Vista on it and is it still under warranty by
> Dell (1 year appears to be standard on their web site for this machine)?
>
> If still under warranty I would now call Dell and see what they suggest.
>
>
> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
> news:u0jnDFa4IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Understand what you said; since the Sony DVC is recognized by another
>> WinXP PC when I plug it in I guess I can assume (bad word I know) that
>> the port on my PC is faulty. Other than to plug in the Sony, I have never
>> used the Firewire port so I wouldn't have found out that it was faulty.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:urNCZRR4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> If the camera, cable and host controller are all working, the only thing
>>> that I can think of is that you have a bad physical port on the
>>> computer. While I have never had a Firewire port go bad I have had USB
>>> ports have internal connection problems where if I moved the connector
>>> just so, a connection was made but if I released the connector the
>>> connection would be lost.
>>>
>>> Have you tried any other Firewire device in the port? That is your next
>>> step to determine cause. Check around for some device that you can
>>> insert to see if it works. I use Firewire external hard drives for
>>> storing my video files from my laptops so maybe you can find one to
>>> test.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OKfbHQP4IHA.3576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> And the saga continues. I have a new working Firewire cable and I know
>>>> the Sony DVC is operating as I connected it to another PC and the
>>>> device was recognized. When I connected the Sony to the IEEE 1394 port
>>>> on my PC (Dell XPS 210) it was not recognized. The device does not
>>>> appear under Imaging Devices in Device Manager. Under the heading IEEE
>>>> 1394 Bus Host Controller is shown Texas Instrument OHCI Compliant IEEE
>>>> 1394 Host Controller with NO Yellow warning icon. Device Manager says
>>>> it is working correctly. (I am now running WinXP Media Edition SP3 but
>>>> same thing occurred under SP2.) Advice, please.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is
>>>> prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%237zPzXk3IHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hope you get it working. Let us know what you find out and if you
>>>>> still can't get it working write back and we will all try to help..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23iZ97uh3IHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thank you for all the good info and links. I'll check everything out
>>>>>> and let you know. BTW, I just updated from SP2 to SP3 and the PC
>>>>>> still doesn't recognize the DV camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly enough, I recently connected my Sony DV camera through
>>>>>> an IEEE 1394 device on another PC (running SP2) and everything worked
>>>>>> very well. I'm now 8000 miles away from that PC and the cable I used
>>>>>> so I'll have to do the whole troubleshooting process. Anyway, thanks
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is
>>>>>> prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eM1jcYc3IHA.5112@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Never trust anything a brand new cable can be faulty as can a 10
>>>>>>> year old one which worked yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must test all the components with ones you can see working in
>>>>>>> front of your eyes, so beg/steal/borrow a cam/pc and cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, Device manager will tell you if the firewire port is error
>>>>>>> free in connection etc, but not error free physically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...notCapture.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graham Hughes
>>>>>>> MVP Digital Media
>>>>>>> www.myvideoproblems.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eqWb3VV3IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Yes to all you said. There is no error indicator under the IEEE
>>>>>>>> 1394 Bus host controller. Device manager says device is working
>>>>>>>> properly. Cable is brand new (Belkin).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------------------...A cynic does not read bitter lessons
>>>>>>>> from the past; he is prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:u2yn3jU3IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "King Harry" <bitterbrush@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C95E83CA-032B-4F11-A27F-3B764D5F50D4@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> For a reason unknown to me, I am unable to import digital video
>>>>>>>>>> from my Sony
>>>>>>>>>> DCR-PC9. I connect to my PC from The camera via a Firewire
>>>>>>>>>> (IEEE1394), 6 pin
>>>>>>>>>> to 4 pin. I am using WinXpMedia Edition. Keep getting on-screen
>>>>>>>>>> message that
>>>>>>>>>> the input device cannot be found. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Against stupidity even the Gods themselves battle in vain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets look at the obvious first. Camera turned on and in playback
>>>>>>>>> mode? Absolutely sure the cable is good and plugged in all the
>>>>>>>>> way? Can you see the Firewire card/adaptor in Device manager under
>>>>>>>>> "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers" without any error indication
>>>>>>>>> (yellow !)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 07-10-2008, 05:35 PM
LVTravel
 
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Re: Failure To Recognize DV Camera
When I looked on the Dell site for the model specified, it didn't show that
there was two ports, one front and one rear, only specified one on the
front, or I would have suggested to check both. Glad to find the problem
but sorry you found out it was a bad connection at the port. Hope you get
it fixed by jiggling but it is probably damaged contacts within the port
itself..

Bye!

"Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
news:OPTa8mo4IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> OK, just discovered that the rear IEEE 1394 port on my PC is
> working...front port is not. Presume bad Firewire connection on front card
> as the 2 USB ports on that card are both working well. I'll open the case
> and jiggle/re-seat card and see what happens. Thanks for your patience and
> responses. Cheers.
>
> --
> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is prematurely
> disappointed in the future...
>
>
> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:eBRW%23Jg4IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I am not absolutely sure that is your problem but I would try to plug in a
>>different known working device.
>>
>> In looking over your post I see the machine is probably a relatively new
>> one. Does this machine have Vista on it and is it still under warranty
>> by Dell (1 year appears to be standard on their web site for this
>> machine)?
>>
>> If still under warranty I would now call Dell and see what they suggest.
>>
>>
>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>> news:u0jnDFa4IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Understand what you said; since the Sony DVC is recognized by another
>>> WinXP PC when I plug it in I guess I can assume (bad word I know) that
>>> the port on my PC is faulty. Other than to plug in the Sony, I have
>>> never used the Firewire port so I wouldn't have found out that it was
>>> faulty.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:urNCZRR4IHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> If the camera, cable and host controller are all working, the only
>>>> thing that I can think of is that you have a bad physical port on the
>>>> computer. While I have never had a Firewire port go bad I have had USB
>>>> ports have internal connection problems where if I moved the connector
>>>> just so, a connection was made but if I released the connector the
>>>> connection would be lost.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried any other Firewire device in the port? That is your
>>>> next step to determine cause. Check around for some device that you can
>>>> insert to see if it works. I use Firewire external hard drives for
>>>> storing my video files from my laptops so maybe you can find one to
>>>> test.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OKfbHQP4IHA.3576@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> And the saga continues. I have a new working Firewire cable and I know
>>>>> the Sony DVC is operating as I connected it to another PC and the
>>>>> device was recognized. When I connected the Sony to the IEEE 1394 port
>>>>> on my PC (Dell XPS 210) it was not recognized. The device does not
>>>>> appear under Imaging Devices in Device Manager. Under the heading IEEE
>>>>> 1394 Bus Host Controller is shown Texas Instrument OHCI Compliant IEEE
>>>>> 1394 Host Controller with NO Yellow warning icon. Device Manager says
>>>>> it is working correctly. (I am now running WinXP Media Edition SP3 but
>>>>> same thing occurred under SP2.) Advice, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is
>>>>> prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%237zPzXk3IHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hope you get it working. Let us know what you find out and if you
>>>>>> still can't get it working write back and we will all try to help..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23iZ97uh3IHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thank you for all the good info and links. I'll check everything out
>>>>>>> and let you know. BTW, I just updated from SP2 to SP3 and the PC
>>>>>>> still doesn't recognize the DV camera.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interestingly enough, I recently connected my Sony DV camera through
>>>>>>> an IEEE 1394 device on another PC (running SP2) and everything
>>>>>>> worked very well. I'm now 8000 miles away from that PC and the cable
>>>>>>> I used so I'll have to do the whole troubleshooting process. Anyway,
>>>>>>> thanks again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ...A cynic does not read bitter lessons from the past; he is
>>>>>>> prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>>>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@dvds2treasure.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eM1jcYc3IHA.5112@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Never trust anything a brand new cable can be faulty as can a 10
>>>>>>>> year old one which worked yesterday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You must test all the components with ones you can see working in
>>>>>>>> front of your eyes, so beg/steal/borrow a cam/pc and cable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again, Device manager will tell you if the firewire port is error
>>>>>>>> free in connection etc, but not error free physically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...notCapture.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graham Hughes
>>>>>>>> MVP Digital Media
>>>>>>>> www.myvideoproblems.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Harry Williams" <dramat@techie.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eqWb3VV3IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Yes to all you said. There is no error indicator under the IEEE
>>>>>>>>> 1394 Bus host controller. Device manager says device is working
>>>>>>>>> properly. Cable is brand new (Belkin).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -------------------------...A cynic does not read bitter lessons
>>>>>>>>> from the past; he is prematurely disappointed in the future...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "LVTravel" <noone@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:u2yn3jU3IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "King Harry" <bitterbrush@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:C95E83CA-032B-4F11-A27F-3B764D5F50D4@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> For a reason unknown to me, I am unable to import digital video
>>>>>>>>>>> from my Sony
>>>>>>>>>>> DCR-PC9. I connect to my PC from The camera via a Firewire
>>>>>>>>>>> (IEEE1394), 6 pin
>>>>>>>>>>> to 4 pin. I am using WinXpMedia Edition. Keep getting on-screen
>>>>>>>>>>> message that
>>>>>>>>>>> the input device cannot be found. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Against stupidity even the Gods themselves battle in vain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets look at the obvious first. Camera turned on and in playback
>>>>>>>>>> mode? Absolutely sure the cable is good and plugged in all the
>>>>>>>>>> way? Can you see the Firewire card/adaptor in Device manager
>>>>>>>>>> under "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers" without any error
>>>>>>>>>> indication (yellow !)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
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