Home Networking Problem

Not sure if this is the right forum for this question since I am not
experiencing any Web connection problems.

I am, however, experiencing a problem with my Win XP Pro computer on the
Workgroup that I have. I have 2 other computers running Vista Ult. and they
can see each other fine. The XP machine even shows up on the Network but
when I click on its icon I get an error message denying me access to the
computer.

On the XP machine I see the Workgroup but when I click on its icon I cannot
see anything--permission denied error. I have gone through the Network Setup
Wizard several times but I can't seem to get it right.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
penciline
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You may have two issues here. One is permission and other is name resolution
or computer browser issue. Find each computer's IP address, and then do net
view \\remotecomputeripaddress on each computer? Do you receive system
error?

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"penciline" <penciline@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:199B5C2F-21F7-40A7-AECF-99CF2F2E215E@microsoft.com...
> Not sure if this is the right forum for this question since I am not
> experiencing any Web connection problems.
>
> I am, however, experiencing a problem with my Win XP Pro computer on the
> Workgroup that I have. I have 2 other computers running Vista Ult. and
> they
> can see each other fine. The XP machine even shows up on the Network but
> when I click on its icon I get an error message denying me access to the
> computer.
>
> On the XP machine I see the Workgroup but when I click on its icon I
> cannot
> see anything--permission denied error. I have gone through the Network
> Setup
> Wizard several times but I can't seem to get it right.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
> penciline
> --
> -=- penciline -=-

penciline wrote:

> Not sure if this is the right forum for this question since I am not
> experiencing any Web connection problems.
>
> I am, however, experiencing a problem with my Win XP Pro computer on the
> Workgroup that I have. I have 2 other computers running Vista Ult. and
> they
> can see each other fine. The XP machine even shows up on the Network but
> when I click on its icon I get an error message denying me access to the
> computer.
>
> On the XP machine I see the Workgroup but when I click on its icon I
> cannot
> see anything--permission denied error. I have gone through the Network
> Setup Wizard several times but I can't seem to get it right.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

2. On the XP box, Control Panel>Folder Options>View tab. Uncheck "Use simple
file sharing".

3. On the XP box, check the firewall settings.

Malke
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MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

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"Malke" wrote:

> penciline wrote:
>
> > Not sure if this is the right forum for this question since I am not
> > experiencing any Web connection problems.
> >
> > I am, however, experiencing a problem with my Win XP Pro computer on the
> > Workgroup that I have. I have 2 other computers running Vista Ult. and
> > they
> > can see each other fine. The XP machine even shows up on the Network but
> > when I click on its icon I get an error message denying me access to the
> > computer.
> >
> > On the XP machine I see the Workgroup but when I click on its icon I
> > cannot
> > see anything--permission denied error. I have gone through the Network
> > Setup Wizard several times but I can't seem to get it right.
> >
> > Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
> such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
> not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
> 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>
> 1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
> need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
> directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
> convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
> XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> 2. On the XP box, Control Panel>Folder Options>View tab. Uncheck "Use simple
> file sharing".
>
> 3. On the XP box, check the firewall settings.

I did have 2 firewalls running and I took one of them down. I can now click
on the XP box's Workgroup but I still do not see anything in the window. I
ran net view from the cmd on all machines and I see that the command
completes successfully. It shows me the list of shared folders. However I
still don't know why the XP box doesn't see anything in the windows
environment.

Please advise.
-penciline



>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> Don't Panic!
>

penciline wrote:

> I did have 2 firewalls running and I took one of them down. *I can now
> click on the XP box's Workgroup but I still do not see anything in the
> window. *I ran net view from the cmd on all machines and I see that the
> command completes successfully. *It shows me the list of shared folders.
> However I still don't know why the XP box doesn't see anything in the
> windows environment.
>
Finish doing what I already suggested.

If you have:

1. Created matching user accounts/passwords on all boxen
2. Turned off Simple File Sharing (XP Pro/MCE)
3. Configured firewalls correctly on all boxen

then you will be able to share files/printers successfully.

For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent small
network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista. Take the time to
go through it; that will usually pinpoint the problem area.

http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Suddenly it is working. I'm not sure what I did to cause it to malfunction
in the first place or to cause it to work in the second place but thank you
for your help. These tips provided a solution.
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"Malke" wrote:

> penciline wrote:
>
> > I did have 2 firewalls running and I took one of them down. I can now
> > click on the XP box's Workgroup but I still do not see anything in the
> > window. I ran net view from the cmd on all machines and I see that the
> > command completes successfully. It shows me the list of shared folders.
> > However I still don't know why the XP box doesn't see anything in the
> > windows environment.
> >
> Finish doing what I already suggested.
>
> If you have:
>
> 1. Created matching user accounts/passwords on all boxen
> 2. Turned off Simple File Sharing (XP Pro/MCE)
> 3. Configured firewalls correctly on all boxen
>
> then you will be able to share files/printers successfully.
>
> For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent small
> network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista. Take the time to
> go through it; that will usually pinpoint the problem area.
>
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> Don't Panic!
>

Milke,

I'm having the Sharing Network problem also - when I 'ping' the laptop
from desktop, I get timeouts, Same when I 'ping' the desktop from
the laptop. I have a 4-Port Router for the network. I'm running
WinXP on the desktop, and Vista on the laptop. I have Norton Internet
Security on both machines (I have Windows's Firewall OFF on each
machine). I shared the 'E' drive on the desktop with the laptop.
Everything was working fine until I had to uninstall and reinstall NIS
on the laptop. Since then, the two machines do not see each other on
the network.

In NIS, on the desktop, I have the laptop's IP address in the
'Trusted' area - and on the laptop, I have the desktop's IP address in
the NIS 'Trusted" area.

When I review the network and sharing on the laptop - only the laptop
shows up on the network. (I have full access to the Internet on both
the laptop and the desktop via the router).

I'm not sure what to do to get these machines to see each other again.
I'm hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction (I
hope so!)

Thanks
Charlie

>On Sat, 10 May 2008 19:11:34 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
>by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
>such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
>not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
>4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>
>1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
>need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
>need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
>directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
>convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
>XP and Vista:
>
>Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
>2. On the XP box, Control Panel>Folder Options>View tab. Uncheck "Use simple
>file sharing".
>
>3. On the XP box, check the firewall settings.
>
>Malke
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Charliec

On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:22:22 -0700, Charliec <charliec@invalid.address.com>
wrote:

>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 19:11:34 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
>>by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
>>such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
>>not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
>>4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>>
>>1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
>>need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>>assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
>>need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
>>directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
>>convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
>>XP and Vista:
>>
>>Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>>http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>>
>>2. On the XP box, Control Panel>Folder Options>View tab. Uncheck "Use simple
>>file sharing".
>>
>>3. On the XP box, check the firewall settings.
>>
>>Malke

>Milke,
>
>I'm having the Sharing Network problem also - when I 'ping' the laptop
>from desktop, I get timeouts, Same when I 'ping' the desktop from
>the laptop. I have a 4-Port Router for the network. I'm running
>WinXP on the desktop, and Vista on the laptop. I have Norton Internet
>Security on both machines (I have Windows's Firewall OFF on each
>machine). I shared the 'E' drive on the desktop with the laptop.
>Everything was working fine until I had to uninstall and reinstall NIS
>on the laptop. Since then, the two machines do not see each other on
>the network.
>
>In NIS, on the desktop, I have the laptop's IP address in the
>'Trusted' area - and on the laptop, I have the desktop's IP address in
>the NIS 'Trusted" area.
>
>When I review the network and sharing on the laptop - only the laptop
>shows up on the network. (I have full access to the Internet on both
>the laptop and the desktop via the router).
>
>I'm not sure what to do to get these machines to see each other again.
>I'm hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction (I
>hope so!)
>
>Thanks
>Charlie

Charlie,

If you have NIS, you likely have Norton Anti-Worm Protection. NAW has a
semi-firewall that occasionally causes problems with file sharing, it's separate
from NAV and NIS, and it does NOT allow you to disable it as NAV / NIS.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...ther-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/

Thanks, I will look at this

>On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:06:21 -0700, "Chuck [MVP]" <none@example.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:22:22 -0700, Charliec <charliec@invalid.address.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>On Sat, 10 May 2008 19:11:34 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
>>>by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
>>>such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3)
>>>not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines;
>>>4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>>>
>>>1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
>>>need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>>>assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
>>>need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
>>>directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
>>>convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
>>>XP and Vista:
>>>
>>>Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>>>http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>>>
>>>2. On the XP box, Control Panel>Folder Options>View tab. Uncheck "Use simple
>>>file sharing".
>>>
>>>3. On the XP box, check the firewall settings.
>>>
>>>Malke
>
>>Milke,
>>
>>I'm having the Sharing Network problem also - when I 'ping' the laptop
>>from desktop, I get timeouts, Same when I 'ping' the desktop from
>>the laptop. I have a 4-Port Router for the network. I'm running
>>WinXP on the desktop, and Vista on the laptop. I have Norton Internet
>>Security on both machines (I have Windows's Firewall OFF on each
>>machine). I shared the 'E' drive on the desktop with the laptop.
>>Everything was working fine until I had to uninstall and reinstall NIS
>>on the laptop. Since then, the two machines do not see each other on
>>the network.
>>
>>In NIS, on the desktop, I have the laptop's IP address in the
>>'Trusted' area - and on the laptop, I have the desktop's IP address in
>>the NIS 'Trusted" area.
>>
>>When I review the network and sharing on the laptop - only the laptop
>>shows up on the network. (I have full access to the Internet on both
>>the laptop and the desktop via the router).
>>
>>I'm not sure what to do to get these machines to see each other again.
>>I'm hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction (I
>>hope so!)
>>
>>Thanks
>>Charlie
>
>Charlie,
>
>If you have NIS, you likely have Norton Anti-Worm Protection. NAW has a
>semi-firewall that occasionally causes problems with file sharing, it's separate
>from NAV and NIS, and it does NOT allow you to disable it as NAV / NIS.
><http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005...ther-help.html
************************************************** ****
Charliec