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Old 05-22-2008, 05:46 PM
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Can't see all the XP systems on my network in workgroup
I am trying to setup some networking and I can't see all the XP
systems in the workgroup.
But, the systems that I can't see are in another room. Different
subnet, different switch.

What ports should I verify that are open to allow the system to access
each other ?

Thanks
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:09 PM
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Re: Can't see all the XP systems on my network in workgroup
Can you ping each other? Do you have a router between two subnets?

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"sid" <sidwelle@alexian.net> wrote in message
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>I am trying to setup some networking and I can't see all the XP
> systems in the workgroup.
> But, the systems that I can't see are in another room. Different
> subnet, different switch.
>
> What ports should I verify that are open to allow the system to access
> each other ?
>
> Thanks


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Old 05-22-2008, 06:52 PM
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Re: Can't see all the XP systems on my network in workgroup
On May 22, 1:09*pm, "Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" <findem...@chicagotech.net>
wrote:
> Can you ping each other? Do you have a router between two subnets?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com"sid" <sidwe...@alexian.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0371d2d5-cab2-4ac9-92fb-e74dad5c00ed@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I am trying to setup some networking and I can't see all the XP
> > systems in the workgroup.
> > But, the systems that I can't see are in another room. Different
> > subnet, different switch.

>
> > What ports should I verify that are open to allow the system to access
> > each other ?

>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Ping: Yes
Routed: not sure, I know that we are switched down to the user level,
but I don't know if it has to pass through one of our routers get to
the other subnet.
Browse: Yes, I can even browse the others shares by, \\MyOtherPC...


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Old 05-22-2008, 08:17 PM
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Re: Can't see all the XP systems on my network in workgroup
On May 22, 1:52*pm, sid <sidwe...@alexian.net> wrote:
> On May 22, 1:09*pm, "Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" <findem...@chicagotech.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Can you ping each other? Do you have a router between two subnets?

>
> > --
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com"sid" <sidwe...@alexian.net> wrote in message

>
> >news:0371d2d5-cab2-4ac9-92fb-e74dad5c00ed@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>
> > >I am trying to setup some networking and I can't see all the XP
> > > systems in the workgroup.
> > > But, the systems that I can't see are in another room. Different
> > > subnet, different switch.

>
> > > What ports should I verify that are open to allow the system to access
> > > each other ?

>
> > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Ping: Yes
> Routed: not sure, I know that we are switched down to the user level,
> but I don't know if it has to pass through one of our routers get to
> the other subnet.
> Browse: Yes, I can even browse the others shares by, *\\MyOtherPC...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


No, but I was trying to browse the name of the workgroup and noticed
that it kept asking me for a user ID and PW ? why ? So I tried to
ping the workgroup name and it replied, so I found that machine and
discovered that it was a windows server that was part of the
workgroup, Not a domain.
So I turned the system off and went back to my system and went to
Network Neighborhood. Now I can see all the systems that belong to
that workgroup on my local subnet, but not the other subnets!
Why can't I see the other subnets in NetNeighborHood ?
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: Can't see all the XP systems on my network in workgroup
Quoted from Does Windows 2000/2003 domain needs WINS
http://www.howtonetworking.com/server/wins1.htm

"The browser service uses Netbios names and broadcasts. The only practical
way for a browse master to find another browse master in a different
segment is through WINS".

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"sid" <sidwelle@alexian.net> wrote in message
news:0ef2fbd0-60ce-42c8-9c8a-40157229bb16@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On May 22, 1:52 pm, sid <sidwe...@alexian.net> wrote:
> On May 22, 1:09 pm, "Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)" <findem...@chicagotech.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Can you ping each other? Do you have a router between two subnets?

>
> > --
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting
> > onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access
> > onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com"sid" <sidwe...@alexian.net> wrote in
> > message

>
> >news:0371d2d5-cab2-4ac9-92fb-e74dad5c00ed@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>
> > >I am trying to setup some networking and I can't see all the XP
> > > systems in the workgroup.
> > > But, the systems that I can't see are in another room. Different
> > > subnet, different switch.

>
> > > What ports should I verify that are open to allow the system to access
> > > each other ?

>
> > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Ping: Yes
> Routed: not sure, I know that we are switched down to the user level,
> but I don't know if it has to pass through one of our routers get to
> the other subnet.
> Browse: Yes, I can even browse the others shares by, \\MyOtherPC...- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


No, but I was trying to browse the name of the workgroup and noticed
that it kept asking me for a user ID and PW ? why ? So I tried to
ping the workgroup name and it replied, so I found that machine and
discovered that it was a windows server that was part of the
workgroup, Not a domain.
So I turned the system off and went back to my system and went to
Network Neighborhood. Now I can see all the systems that belong to
that workgroup on my local subnet, but not the other subnets!
Why can't I see the other subnets in NetNeighborHood ?

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