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Old 02-08-2008, 01:26 AM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Re: Install SP1 Update?
slick1 wrote:
> Please bear with me as I'm new at all this.
> Two day's ago I installed "Microsoft Office Home & Student" A
> 519MB install which loaded ok and everything works great.
> Today I checked for any new updates on Microsoft Updates and I got
> a High-priority to install "2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service
> Pack 1 (SP1)" This is a 619.7MB download and will take 5hrs &
> 12mins to install !!!
>
> My questions:
> 1: Do I really need this update since my Home
> & Student installed OK ?
> 2: I have Windows XP Home with SP2, so do I
> need this SP1 update ?
> I would rather not have to download this 619MB update as I really
> cannot afford the space. But if all you wise MVP's suggest I
> should, I will.


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> You purchased "Microsoft Office Home & Student" and installed it -
> full version, activated, etc...?
>
> What you are being offered is the Service Pack 1 for Microsoft
> Office 2007. Yes - you should install it.
>
> SP1 for Microsoft Office is NOT as large as you make it out to be.
> Download it direct and install it. It will replace many of the
> files you already have installed.
>
> The 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> Also - if you are that worried over space that less than 1GB is
> going to cripple your system - you might consider getting a larger
> hard disk drive or archiving some of the lesser used stuff off your
> PC.

<snip stuff that did not belong>

Apologies. Never answer two questions at once! *grin*
(Or be more careful when you do.)

What I was going to tell you:

Worried over disk space?

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 256MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 256MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given time
being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is wrong and
you would be better off spending $100 and putting in a drive that is likely
3-8 times as large as what you have not and not concerning yourself over
such a small amount of space OR you seriously need to consider what you
really need on the system and what should be archived.

Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area gets
full - you either have to decide what you really should have in the storage
area and what could go or you have to find a new place to store stuff
that will accommodate everything you need. You don't walk into a
warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move it out of
the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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Old 02-08-2008, 02:20 AM
slick1
 
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Re: Install SP1 Update?
> To Shenan from Slick1 :
> I only installed the "Home & Student", no other Office systems.
> As for disk space, I use Dick Clean-up daily... temp files, Recycle Bin,

cookies, etc; and uninstall unnecessary applications.
> Problems with the Hiberfil.sys file though. I have an Acer laptop which

uses
ePower Management which somehow supplants the basic Windows control to
enable/disable the Hiberfil.sys file. Acer's ePower Management control
for this
goes from 1 min - 30 min - etc, up to 5hrs, then to Never. I'm going to
check
with Acer about this problem and see if there is a way to enable/disable
Hiberfil.sys file.
> I'm going to download the SP1 update and buy some more disk space.
> Thanks for your help !!


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> slick1 wrote:
> > Please bear with me as I'm new at all this.
> > Two day's ago I installed "Microsoft Office Home & Student" A
> > 519MB install which loaded ok and everything works great.
> > Today I checked for any new updates on Microsoft Updates and I got
> > a High-priority to install "2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service
> > Pack 1 (SP1)" This is a 619.7MB download and will take 5hrs &
> > 12mins to install !!!
> >
> > My questions:
> > 1: Do I really need this update since my Home
> > & Student installed OK ?
> > 2: I have Windows XP Home with SP2, so do I
> > need this SP1 update ?
> > I would rather not have to download this 619MB update as I really
> > cannot afford the space. But if all you wise MVP's suggest I
> > should, I will.

>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > You purchased "Microsoft Office Home & Student" and installed it -
> > full version, activated, etc...?
> >
> > What you are being offered is the Service Pack 1 for Microsoft
> > Office 2007. Yes - you should install it.
> >
> > SP1 for Microsoft Office is NOT as large as you make it out to be.
> > Download it direct and install it. It will replace many of the
> > files you already have installed.
> >
> > The 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > Also - if you are that worried over space that less than 1GB is
> > going to cripple your system - you might consider getting a larger
> > hard disk drive or archiving some of the lesser used stuff off your
> > PC.

> <snip stuff that did not belong>
>
> Apologies. Never answer two questions at once! *grin*
> (Or be more careful when you do.)
>
> What I was going to tell you:
>
> Worried over disk space?
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
> uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
> Used Disk Cleanup?
> Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
> Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
> latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
> memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
> file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
> don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
> uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:
>
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
> Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
> click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
> "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
> hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
> tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
> the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
> the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
> 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...
>
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
> size between 64MB and 256MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
> following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
> something between 64MB and 256MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
> now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
> (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
> minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
> Explorer.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.
>
> If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given time
> being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is wrong and
> you would be better off spending $100 and putting in a drive that is likely
> 3-8 times as large as what you have not and not concerning yourself over
> such a small amount of space OR you seriously need to consider what you
> really need on the system and what should be archived.
>
> Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area gets
> full - you either have to decide what you really should have in the storage
> area and what could go or you have to find a new place to store stuff
> that will accommodate everything you need. You don't walk into a
> warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
> you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move it out of
> the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

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