ME inside XP

Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would run ME
inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it but am having
difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the name of the file for a
search or point me to the download again I'd greatly appreciate it.
I want to give it a try as a way of getting around a dual boot which
restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.

Norman

Norman wrote:
> Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would
> run ME inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it
> but am having difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the
> name of the file for a search or point me to the download again I'd
> greatly appreciate it. I want to give it a try as a way of getting around
> a dual boot which
> restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.

I do not know what you are speaking of.

However - you can use something like VirtualBox (free) to run a Virtual
Machine inside of Windows XP with the OS(es) of your choice.

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MS-MVP
--
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Norman wrote:
> Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would run ME
> inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it but am having
> difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the name of the file for a
> search or point me to the download again I'd greatly appreciate it.
> I want to give it a try as a way of getting around a dual boot which
> restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.
>
> Norman
>
>


It sounds as if you were advised to try a virtual machine solution.
The two free ones of which I'm aware are Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox
(http://www.virtualbox.org/).

NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista
Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your
results may vary.


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I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it. I was only toying
with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in ME at the time.
It stated at the MS site that it was intended for XP users that had software
that would not run in XP. And allowed an install of say ME in a box, shell,
something like that. All of the XP drivers would be used.
Hard to find since I don't remember name, approximate size, etc. and not
exactly sure how I categorized it and thus buried it in many GB of archived
files.
And can't be sure I used default name even. I'm stumped that I did not burn
to CD unless it was during the era of my burner problems.
I did a light search on the MS link below but did not find.
Norman

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:uzNssCMyIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Norman wrote:
>> Quite some time back, Mike pointed me to a MS download that would run ME
>> inside XP, like a shell I'd guess. I know I downloaded it but am having
>> difficulty locating it. If anyone can tell me the name of the file for a
>> search or point me to the download again I'd greatly appreciate it.
>> I want to give it a try as a way of getting around a dual boot which
>> restricts my use of SATA drive which ME does not recognize.
>>
>> Norman
>
>
> It sounds as if you were advised to try a virtual machine solution. The
> two free ones of which I'm aware are Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007
> (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox
> (http://www.virtualbox.org/).
>
> NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista Home
> editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your results
> may vary.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot

Norman wrote:

> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it.

Mike can be found in the Me group, ask there.

John

Norman wrote:
> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it. I was only
> toying with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in
> ME at the time. It stated at the MS site that it was intended for
> XP users that had software that would not run in XP. And allowed an
> install of say ME in a box, shell, something like that. All of the
> XP drivers would be used. Hard to find since I don't remember name,
> approximate size, etc.
> and not exactly sure how I categorized it and thus buried it in
> many GB of archived files.
> And can't be sure I used default name even. I'm stumped that I did
> not burn to CD unless it was during the era of my burner problems.
> I did a light search on the MS link below but did not find.

VirtualBox - Install Windows ME into it. I believe that to be your best
bet.

However...

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...pq=Mike+Maltby

Either of those you?

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MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You got me. And thanks for the hints.
I had decided to archive some stuff on HDD to CD as long as burner was
working. Figured XPSP3 folder would be a good place to start and along side
that folder was folder 'VirtPC', short for virtual PC. Also links to website
that now took me to the newer version.

I know I need to learn better search methods.
Norman

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Norman wrote:
>> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it. I was only
>> toying with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in
>> ME at the time. It stated at the MS site that it was intended for
>> XP users that had software that would not run in XP. And allowed an
>> install of say ME in a box, shell, something like that. All of the
>> XP drivers would be used. Hard to find since I don't remember name,
>> approximate size, etc.
>> and not exactly sure how I categorized it and thus buried it in
>> many GB of archived files.
>> And can't be sure I used default name even. I'm stumped that I did
>> not burn to CD unless it was during the era of my burner problems.
>> I did a light search on the MS link below but did not find.
>
> VirtualBox - Install Windows ME into it. I believe that to be your best
> bet.
>
> However...
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...pq=Mike+Maltby
>
> Either of those you?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

Thanks. I should drop in just to say hi since it is getting so slow
overthere.
Norman
"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Norman wrote:
>
>> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it.
>
> Mike can be found in the Me group, ask there.
>
> John

"Norman" wrote in <news:u51#vQMyIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>:

> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it.

Pointed you to it WHERE? In a newsgroups post? If so, search Google
Groups for posts submitted by Mike Maltby.

http://groups.google.com/groups?scor...+author:maltby

The only technical newsgroup shown to where he posted was for 1 post
back in 2003 in the Windows ME newsgroup. You didn't pick a unique
enough moniker to go Google Group searching on it to find whatever
newsgroup discussion you were involved in before that discussed whatever
it is that you vaguely remember.

> I was only toying
> with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in ME at the time.

Not an issue in a virtual machine, like when using Virtual PC or VMWare
Server (both free, I prefer VMWare). All the hardware except the CPU is
emulated inside the virtual machine.

> It stated at the MS site that it was intended for XP users that had software
> that would not run in XP. And allowed an install of say ME in a box, shell,
> something like that. All of the XP drivers would be used.

Yep, the parent or host OS still has to communicate with the real
hardware through the use of drivers. All hardware except the CPU is
emulated with the virtual machine. You don't need drivers in the
virtual machine. However, you don't get the full feature set of your
real hardware. You get the emulated hardware which supports
legacy-grade hardware requirements. Don't expect to play games within a
virtual machine. You never mentioned WHAT you wanted to run within a
Windows ME environment.

"VanguardLH" wrote in
<news:rICdnZ-5cKH2uNbVnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com>:

> "Norman" wrote in <news:u51#vQMyIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>:
>
>> I think it was Mike Maltby (sp?) that pointed me to it.
>
> Pointed you to it WHERE? In a newsgroups post? If so, search Google
> Groups for posts submitted by Mike Maltby.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?scor...+author:maltby
>
> The only technical newsgroup shown to where he posted was for 1 post
> back in 2003 in the Windows ME newsgroup. You didn't pick a unique
> enough moniker to go Google Group searching on it to find whatever
> newsgroup discussion you were involved in before that discussed whatever
> it is that you vaguely remember.
>
>> I was only toying
>> with concerns of XP install and not getting SATA to run in ME at the time.
>
> Not an issue in a virtual machine, like when using Virtual PC or VMWare
> Server (both free, I prefer VMWare). All the hardware except the CPU is
> emulated inside the virtual machine.
>
>> It stated at the MS site that it was intended for XP users that had software
>> that would not run in XP. And allowed an install of say ME in a box, shell,
>> something like that. All of the XP drivers would be used.
>
> Yep, the parent or host OS still has to communicate with the real
> hardware through the use of drivers. All hardware except the CPU is
> emulated with the virtual machine. You don't need drivers in the
> virtual machine. However, you don't get the full feature set of your
> real hardware. You get the emulated hardware which supports
> legacy-grade hardware requirements. Don't expect to play games within a
> virtual machine. You never mentioned WHAT you wanted to run within a
> Windows ME environment.

Something I forgot to mention about licensing. When you upgrade, you do
not get another license for Windows. If you upgraded to Windows XP from
Windows ME then you lost your license for Windows ME. Upgrades do not
increase the number of license that you have. All upgrades must trace
back through a single license to a full version that was used as the
initial OS. Once you upgrade, the prior version is no longer valid for
use.

When installing Windows within a virtual machine, you are required to
have a license to run it there. So if Windows XP is your host OS and
Windows ME is your guest OS (in the virtual machine) then you need 2
licenses: one for Windows XP and another for Windows ME.

You never mentioned WHY you think you need Windows ME. What application
won't run under Windows XP, even in compatibility mode?