Slow boot after reinstall

I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.

There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP splash screen. My
other boxes are about 5 seconds.

Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then floppy. Most of
the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows starts.

Any suggestions?
Mike

Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting the partition,creating
one,
then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you followed
the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot to xp cd,recovery,
in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C: /p After,type:EXIT
Let xp restart.

"MikeR" wrote:

> I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.
>
> There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP splash screen. My
> other boxes are about 5 seconds.
>
> Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then floppy. Most of
> the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows starts.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Mike
>

Andrew E. wrote:
> Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting the partition,creating
> one,
> then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you followed
> the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot to xp cd,recovery,
> in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C: /p After,type:EXIT
> Let xp restart.

Thanks, Andrew-
Booting to XP CD, yes. I didn't delete the partition, but I did format(qiuck). So
maybe the problem is???

No joy with fixboot and chkdsk, altho chkdsk did report a problem. I ran it again
with the /r option.

Any more suggestions?

"MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:eDy2hs1vIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Any more suggestions?

I would suggest including a context. Without one, your post doesn't
really make much sense.

Daave wrote:
> "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:eDy2hs1vIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Any more suggestions?
>
> I would suggest including a context. Without one, your post doesn't
> really make much sense.

Well Daave -
Sorry it's not clear, but it's in the thread. I don't like to quote everything in
previous posts, if it's a short thread. Can you not see the thread?

I have an issue. A fix was suggested, which did not work, and I'm asking for further
guidance.

So here's the whole story:
================================================== ==================================
OP:
I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.

There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP splash screen. My
other boxes are about 5 seconds.

Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then floppy. Most of
the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows starts.
================================================== =================================
Suggested fix:
Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting the partition,creating
one,
then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you followed
the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot to xp cd,recovery,
in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C: /p After,type:EXIT
Let xp restart.
================================================== =================================
My 1st response:
Thanks, Andrew-
Booting to XP CD, yes. I didn't delete the partition, but I did format(qiuck). So
maybe the problem is???

No joy with fixboot and chkdsk, altho chkdsk did report a problem. I ran it again
with the /r option.
================================================== ==================================
I had no further suggestions , so I asked for more.

Mike

Not all Andrew's suggestions are on the ball. Periodically an MS MVP
jumps on him.

If you created a Boot Menu delay the default is 30 seconds and this can
be reduced to 5 seconds. However, I suspect you have not created one.

You can often see the cause by a careful examination of the System log
in Event Viewer. Another approach is to use the techniques described
here:
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/en-us

Drivers can cause start up delays so if you have not updated a third
party driver that could be the explanation. Another area is having
programmes load at start up, when they may be better used on an "on
demand" basis. Autoruns is a useful tool to look at what loads on Start
Up. Others use Msconfig but I much prefer Autoruns.

A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up items is
to use Autoruns.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx

With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
about the item selected.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




MikeR wrote:
> Daave wrote:
>> "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:eDy2hs1vIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Any more suggestions?
>>
>> I would suggest including a context. Without one, your post doesn't
>> really make much sense.
>
> Well Daave -
> Sorry it's not clear, but it's in the thread. I don't like to quote
> everything in previous posts, if it's a short thread. Can you not see
> the thread?
> I have an issue. A fix was suggested, which did not work, and I'm
> asking for further guidance.
>
> So here's the whole story:
> ================================================== ==================================
> OP:
> I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.
>
> There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP
> splash screen. My other boxes are about 5 seconds.
>
> Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then
> floppy. Most of the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows
> starts.
> ================================================== =================================
> Suggested fix: Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting the
> partition,creating one,
> then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you
> followed the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot
> to xp cd,recovery, in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C: /p
> After,type:EXIT Let xp restart.
> ================================================== =================================
> My 1st response:
> Thanks, Andrew-
> Booting to XP CD, yes. I didn't delete the partition, but I did
> format(qiuck). So maybe the problem is???
>
> No joy with fixboot and chkdsk, altho chkdsk did report a problem. I
> ran it again with the /r option.
> ================================================== ==================================
> I had no further suggestions , so I asked for more.

Thanks Gerry -
Gerry wrote:
> Mike
>
> Not all Andrew's suggestions are on the ball. Periodically an MS MVP
> jumps on him.
>
> If you created a Boot Menu delay the default is 30 seconds and this can
> be reduced to 5 seconds. However, I suspect you have not created one.

Not as far as I know.

>
> You can often see the cause by a careful examination of the System log
> in Event Viewer. Another approach is to use the techniques described
> here:
> How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/en-us

Nothing alarming in the Event Log, just informational entries.
I used the Guided Help, and got into a clean boot state, but alas no joy there.

>
> Drivers can cause start up delays so if you have not updated a third
> party driver that could be the explanation. Another area is having
> programmes load at start up, when they may be better used on an "on
> demand" basis. Autoruns is a useful tool to look at what loads on Start
> Up. Others use Msconfig but I much prefer Autoruns.

The monitor may be the only driver issue, as it's using a generic Windows setup. I
can't find any other drivers for it.
Thanks for the tip about Autoruns. It listed some 'not found' .sys files, which I
un-ticked, to no apparent good or bad effect.

>
> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up items is
> to use Autoruns.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx
>
> With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
> or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
> you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
> editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
> you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
> about the item selected.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
> MikeR wrote:
>> Daave wrote:
>>> "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eDy2hs1vIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Any more suggestions?
>>> I would suggest including a context. Without one, your post doesn't
>>> really make much sense.
>> Well Daave -
>> Sorry it's not clear, but it's in the thread. I don't like to quote
>> everything in previous posts, if it's a short thread. Can you not see
>> the thread?
>> I have an issue. A fix was suggested, which did not work, and I'm
>> asking for further guidance.
>>
>> So here's the whole story:
>> ================================================== ==================================
>> OP:
>> I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.
>>
>> There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP
>> splash screen. My other boxes are about 5 seconds.
>>
>> Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then
>> floppy. Most of the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows
>> starts.
>> ================================================== =================================
>> Suggested fix: Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting the
>> partition,creating one,
>> then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you
>> followed the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot
>> to xp cd,recovery, in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C: /p
>> After,type:EXIT Let xp restart.
>> ================================================== =================================
>> My 1st response:
>> Thanks, Andrew-
>> Booting to XP CD, yes. I didn't delete the partition, but I did
>> format(qiuck). So maybe the problem is???
>>
>> No joy with fixboot and chkdsk, altho chkdsk did report a problem. I
>> ran it again with the /r option.
>> ================================================== ==================================
>> I had no further suggestions , so I asked for more.
>
>

Mike

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Boot logging?

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/en-us

Then look in the Ntbtlog.txt file to see if anything appears untoward?

What part of the boot takes the time?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

MikeR wrote:
> Thanks Gerry -
> Gerry wrote:
>> Mike
>>
>> Not all Andrew's suggestions are on the ball. Periodically an MS MVP
>> jumps on him.
>>
>> If you created a Boot Menu delay the default is 30 seconds and this
>> can be reduced to 5 seconds. However, I suspect you have not created
>> one.
>
> Not as far as I know.
>
>>
>> You can often see the cause by a careful examination of the System
>> log in Event Viewer. Another approach is to use the techniques
>> described here:
>> How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/en-us
>
> Nothing alarming in the Event Log, just informational entries.
> I used the Guided Help, and got into a clean boot state, but alas no
> joy there.
>>
>> Drivers can cause start up delays so if you have not updated a third
>> party driver that could be the explanation. Another area is having
>> programmes load at start up, when they may be better used on an "on
>> demand" basis. Autoruns is a useful tool to look at what loads on
>> Start Up. Others use Msconfig but I much prefer Autoruns.
>
> The monitor may be the only driver issue, as it's using a generic
> Windows setup. I can't find any other drivers for it.
> Thanks for the tip about Autoruns. It listed some 'not found' .sys
> files, which I un-ticked, to no apparent good or bad effect.
>
>>
>> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up
>> items is to use Autoruns.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx
>>
>> With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from
>> starting, or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If
>> you uncheck you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much
>> safer approach than editing the Registry. Another useful feature of
>> the programme is that you can right click an item and select Search
>> Online to get information about the item selected.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MikeR wrote:
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eDy2hs1vIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Any more suggestions?
>>>> I would suggest including a context. Without one, your post doesn't
>>>> really make much sense.
>>> Well Daave -
>>> Sorry it's not clear, but it's in the thread. I don't like to quote
>>> everything in previous posts, if it's a short thread. Can you not
>>> see the thread?
>>> I have an issue. A fix was suggested, which did not work, and I'm
>>> asking for further guidance.
>>>
>>> So here's the whole story:
>>> ================================================== ==================================
>>> OP:
>>> I had to do a fresh install of XP Pro. I've added SP 2 & 3.
>>>
>>> There is a 27 sec delay between the bios info screens, and the XP
>>> splash screen. My other boxes are about 5 seconds.
>>>
>>> Googling got me a hint to check the boot order, and it's HD, CD then
>>> floppy. Most of the stuff I found applied to a delay after Windows
>>> starts.
>>> ================================================== =================================
>>> Suggested fix: Fresh install of xp,as in booting to xp cd,deleting
>>> the partition,creating one,
>>> then xp formats the hd.If not,then thiers youre problem(s)..If you
>>> followed the above,& performed a "clean xp installation",then boot
>>> to xp cd,recovery, in recovery type:Fixboot Agree,type:CHKDSK C:
>>> /p After,type:EXIT Let xp restart.
>>> ================================================== =================================
>>> My 1st response:
>>> Thanks, Andrew-
>>> Booting to XP CD, yes. I didn't delete the partition, but I did
>>> format(qiuck). So maybe the problem is???
>>>
>>> No joy with fixboot and chkdsk, altho chkdsk did report a problem. I
>>> ran it again with the /r option.
>>> ================================================== ==================================
>>> I had no further suggestions , so I asked for more.

Gerry wrote:
> Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
> the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
> Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

No yellow marks.
>
> Boot logging?
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/en-us
>
> Then look in the Ntbtlog.txt file to see if anything appears untoward?

Hmmmmmmm. Here are some lines from the log. The box has SP3
Service Pack 2 5 23 2008 23:29:35.500
There are 8890 lines. Most of them are like these I've included, lots of repeating items.

Did not load driver Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (L2TP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (IP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPTP)
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Direct Parallel
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (L2TP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (IP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPTP)
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Direct Parallel
Did not load driver Intel Processor
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (L2TP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (IP)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
Did not load driver WAN Miniport (PPTP)
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Packet Scheduler Miniport
Did not load driver Direct Parallel
Did not load driver Intel Processor
>
> What part of the boot takes the time?

The part between the info screens and the Windows splash screen.
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