DCF - compliant jpegs.

I cannot display my photos on TV unless they
are "DCF compliant".

What does this mean, and how do I convert
them to this?

My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg photos.

Frank

DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera Files.
It is a way of naming files and all cameras use this.
The name of the file from your camera should be something like this:
PICT0138.jpg
or
DSCO1244.jpg

It should be, as above, 8 characters followed by .jpg

If you rename the files to something like:
A night in San Francisco.jpg
This is not DCF compliant.

However, you should tell us how you are trying to display these files on
your TV. DCF compliant was needed several years ago but no longer needed for
new devices to display files on TV, such as a recent (a few years ago) DVD
player.




"Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I cannot display my photos on TV unless they are "DCF compliant".
>
> What does this mean, and how do I convert them to this?
>
> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg photos.
>
> Frank
>

I tried renaming the files, but the same
problem occurs.



"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
message
news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera
> Files.
> It is a way of naming files and all cameras
> use this.
> The name of the file from your camera
> should be something like this:
> PICT0138.jpg
> or
> DSCO1244.jpg
>
> It should be, as above, 8 characters
> followed by .jpg
>
> If you rename the files to something like:
> A night in San Francisco.jpg
> This is not DCF compliant.
>
> However, you should tell us how you are
> trying to display these files on your TV.
> DCF compliant was needed several years ago
> but no longer needed for new devices to
> display files on TV, such as a recent (a
> few years ago) DVD player.
>
>
>
>
> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in
> message
> news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless
>>they are "DCF compliant".
>>
>> What does this mean, and how do I convert
>> them to this?
>>
>> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg
>> photos.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>
>

If you tried renaming the file, it must be EXACTLY the same 8 characters
that your camera uses.
Still, you have to tell us, how are you trying to display these photo files
on your TV. You copied the files on a CD and you use a DVD player to display
them? Or you connect your camera directly to your TV to display the photo
files from the camera memory card?
Difficult for us to try to help if we have no info about how you tried to
display the photo files on your TV.

"Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
news:%238xQwJ$dIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I tried renaming the files, but the same problem occurs.
>
>
>
> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera Files.
>> It is a way of naming files and all cameras use this.
>> The name of the file from your camera should be something like this:
>> PICT0138.jpg
>> or
>> DSCO1244.jpg
>>
>> It should be, as above, 8 characters followed by .jpg
>>
>> If you rename the files to something like:
>> A night in San Francisco.jpg
>> This is not DCF compliant.
>>
>> However, you should tell us how you are trying to display these files on
>> your TV. DCF compliant was needed several years ago but no longer needed
>> for new devices to display files on TV, such as a recent (a few years
>> ago) DVD player.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless they are "DCF compliant".
>>>
>>> What does this mean, and how do I convert them to this?
>>>
>>> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg photos.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
message
news:%23wgbTtFeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If you tried renaming the file, it must be
> EXACTLY the same 8 characters that your
> camera uses.
> Still, you have to tell us, how are you
> trying to display these photo files on your
> TV. You copied the files on a CD and you
> use a DVD player to display them? Or you
> connect your camera directly to your TV to
> display the photo files from the camera
> memory card?
> Difficult for us to try to help if we have
> no info about how you tried to display the
> photo files on your TV.


I can display them on TV with the DVD player.
It is with the memory stick ( a "SanDisk
Cruzer"" 2.0gb) that does not work.

My TV is a Sony Bravia with a USB slot in the
side, and I have tried the original camera
(Olympus) filenames.


>
> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in
> message
> news:%238xQwJ$dIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I tried renaming the files, but the same
>>problem occurs.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
>> message
>> news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera
>>> Files.
>>> It is a way of naming files and all
>>> cameras use this.
>>> The name of the file from your camera
>>> should be something like this:
>>> PICT0138.jpg
>>> or
>>> DSCO1244.jpg
>>>
>>> It should be, as above, 8 characters
>>> followed by .jpg
>>>
>>> If you rename the files to something
>>> like:
>>> A night in San Francisco.jpg
>>> This is not DCF compliant.
>>>
>>> However, you should tell us how you are
>>> trying to display these files on your TV.
>>> DCF compliant was needed several years
>>> ago but no longer needed for new devices
>>> to display files on TV, such as a recent
>>> (a few years ago) DVD player.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote
>>> in message
>>> news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless
>>>>they are "DCF compliant".
>>>>
>>>> What does this mean, and how do I
>>>> convert them to this?
>>>>
>>>> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg
>>>> photos.
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Frank Martin wrote:
> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
> message
> news:%23wgbTtFeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>If you tried renaming the file, it must be
>>EXACTLY the same 8 characters that your
>>camera uses.
>>Still, you have to tell us, how are you
>>trying to display these photo files on your
>>TV. You copied the files on a CD and you
>>use a DVD player to display them? Or you
>>connect your camera directly to your TV to
>>display the photo files from the camera
>>memory card?
>>Difficult for us to try to help if we have
>>no info about how you tried to display the
>>photo files on your TV.
>
>
>
> I can display them on TV with the DVD player.
> It is with the memory stick ( a "SanDisk
> Cruzer"" 2.0gb) that does not work.
>
> My TV is a Sony Bravia with a USB slot in the
> side, and I have tried the original camera
> (Olympus) filenames.

Sorry to hear that the Sony viewer is so challenged...

>>"Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in
>>message
>>news:%238xQwJ$dIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>
>>>I tried renaming the files, but the same
>>>problem occurs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
>>>message
>>>news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl. ..
>>>
>>>>DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera
>>>>Files.
>>>>It is a way of naming files and all
>>>>cameras use this.
>>>>The name of the file from your camera
>>>>should be something like this:
>>>>PICT0138.jpg
>>>>or
>>>>DSCO1244.jpg
>>>>
>>>>It should be, as above, 8 characters
>>>>followed by .jpg
>>>>
>>>>If you rename the files to something
>>>>like:
>>>>A night in San Francisco.jpg
>>>>This is not DCF compliant.
>>>>
>>>>However, you should tell us how you are
>>>>trying to display these files on your TV.
>>>>DCF compliant was needed several years
>>>>ago but no longer needed for new devices
>>>>to display files on TV, such as a recent
>>>>(a few years ago) DVD player.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote
>>>>in message
>>>>news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl.. .
>>>>
>>>>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless
>>>>>they are "DCF compliant".
>>>>>
>>>>>What does this mean, and how do I
>>>>>convert them to this?
>>>>>
>>>>>My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg
>>>>>photos.
>>>>>
>>>>>Frank

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

I also have a Sony Bravia and can display files from a Minolta camera
copied on a USB flash drive. I think what you called a "memory stick"
SanDisk Cruzer is actually a USB flash drive and not a memory stick (memory
stick is a Sony memory card used in Sony cameras). The problem you are
having with this "cruzer" is, most probably, that it has a variety of
options on it and not readily recognized by your TV as having the proper
camera compliant folder/file system. I have the same problem with the
SanDisk Cruzer. A pain in the neck, not the fault of your TV.


"Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
news:OU8E4nLeIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23wgbTtFeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If you tried renaming the file, it must be EXACTLY the same 8 characters
>> that your camera uses.
>> Still, you have to tell us, how are you trying to display these photo
>> files on your TV. You copied the files on a CD and you use a DVD player
>> to display them? Or you connect your camera directly to your TV to
>> display the photo files from the camera memory card?
>> Difficult for us to try to help if we have no info about how you tried to
>> display the photo files on your TV.
>
>
> I can display them on TV with the DVD player. It is with the memory stick
> ( a "SanDisk Cruzer"" 2.0gb) that does not work.
>
> My TV is a Sony Bravia with a USB slot in the side, and I have tried the
> original camera (Olympus) filenames.
>
>
>>
>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:%238xQwJ$dIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I tried renaming the files, but the same problem occurs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera Files.
>>>> It is a way of naming files and all cameras use this.
>>>> The name of the file from your camera should be something like this:
>>>> PICT0138.jpg
>>>> or
>>>> DSCO1244.jpg
>>>>
>>>> It should be, as above, 8 characters followed by .jpg
>>>>
>>>> If you rename the files to something like:
>>>> A night in San Francisco.jpg
>>>> This is not DCF compliant.
>>>>
>>>> However, you should tell us how you are trying to display these files
>>>> on your TV. DCF compliant was needed several years ago but no longer
>>>> needed for new devices to display files on TV, such as a recent (a few
>>>> years ago) DVD player.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless they are "DCF compliant".
>>>>>
>>>>> What does this mean, and how do I convert them to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks, I will see if I can buy a suitable
"memory stick."

"Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
message
news:OOhhyVieIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I also have a Sony Bravia and can display
>files from a Minolta camera copied on a USB
>flash drive. I think what you called a
>"memory stick" SanDisk Cruzer is actually a
>USB flash drive and not a memory stick
>(memory stick is a Sony memory card used in
>Sony cameras). The problem you are having
>with this "cruzer" is, most probably, that
>it has a variety of options on it and not
>readily recognized by your TV as having the
>proper camera compliant folder/file system.
>I have the same problem with the SanDisk
>Cruzer. A pain in the neck, not the fault of
>your TV.
>
>
> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in
> message
> news:OU8E4nLeIHA.5296@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
>> message
>> news:%23wgbTtFeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> If you tried renaming the file, it must
>>> be EXACTLY the same 8 characters that
>>> your camera uses.
>>> Still, you have to tell us, how are you
>>> trying to display these photo files on
>>> your TV. You copied the files on a CD and
>>> you use a DVD player to display them? Or
>>> you connect your camera directly to your
>>> TV to display the photo files from the
>>> camera memory card?
>>> Difficult for us to try to help if we
>>> have no info about how you tried to
>>> display the photo files on your TV.
>>
>>
>> I can display them on TV with the DVD
>> player. It is with the memory stick ( a
>> "SanDisk Cruzer"" 2.0gb) that does not
>> work.
>>
>> My TV is a Sony Bravia with a USB slot in
>> the side, and I have tried the original
>> camera (Olympus) filenames.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote
>>> in message
>>> news:%238xQwJ$dIHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I tried renaming the files, but the same
>>>>problem occurs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Yves Alarie" <rd50@@pitt.edu> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:%23hSLH60dIHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera
>>>>> Files.
>>>>> It is a way of naming files and all
>>>>> cameras use this.
>>>>> The name of the file from your camera
>>>>> should be something like this:
>>>>> PICT0138.jpg
>>>>> or
>>>>> DSCO1244.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be, as above, 8 characters
>>>>> followed by .jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> If you rename the files to something
>>>>> like:
>>>>> A night in San Francisco.jpg
>>>>> This is not DCF compliant.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, you should tell us how you are
>>>>> trying to display these files on your
>>>>> TV. DCF compliant was needed several
>>>>> years ago but no longer needed for new
>>>>> devices to display files on TV, such as
>>>>> a recent (a few years ago) DVD player.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Oz%234StydIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I cannot display my photos on TV unless
>>>>>>they are "DCF compliant".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does this mean, and how do I
>>>>>> convert them to this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg
>>>>>> photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Frank Martin wrote:
> Thanks, I will see if I can buy a suitable
> "memory stick."

Making it work is probably as simple as creating a directory
in the root directory containing another directory called DCIM,
which, in turn, contains your .jpg files.

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

Yves Alarie wrote:
> I also have a Sony Bravia and can display files from a Minolta camera
> copied on a USB flash drive. I think what you called a "memory stick"
> SanDisk Cruzer is actually a USB flash drive and not a memory stick (memory
> stick is a Sony memory card used in Sony cameras). The problem you are
> having with this "cruzer" is, most probably, that it has a variety of
> options on it and not readily recognized by your TV as having the proper
> camera compliant folder/file system. I have the same problem with the
> SanDisk Cruzer. A pain in the neck, not the fault of your TV.

Although I agree with you about a workaround for the problem,
I *do* think this is the fault of the TV.

Any flash memory picture viewing software, in the age of multi-
gigabyte flash memories, should contain versatile but simple
directory navigation software, so that with the remote control
the user can navigate to the desired directory and select it
for photo viewing.

The specifications for the universal FAT file system are well-known
and the software for doing this directory navigation is trivial in
its complexity. Any *real* designer would include this capability
before advertising that their product contains a flash memory photo
viewer.

Forcing all the photos on a modern flash memory device to be in a
single directory, or presenting them as if they were, is stupid,
since there could easily be thousands of them on a single device
(and, in fact, this is a common way for people to carry their
"public" photos around).

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."