Memory issue with camera wizard

I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
it.

However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.

I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
little longer before I erase them.

newtech wrote:
> I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
> erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
> the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
> it.
>
> However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
> the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
> and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
> show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
> shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
>
> I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
> want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
> little longer before I erase them.

You're right--it makes no sense.

Either the old pictures are not on the card, but are stored on your
computer and are being shown, or, what you are doing to erase the
card in your camera is not erasing all of them.

Given the funkiness of most camera menus, I'm betting on the latter.

Try it again, reading the menu prompts very carefully--they probably
didn't make it easy to delete all your photos. This is most easily
done on most cameras by *formatting* the card.

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

Yes, the pictures are stored on the computer. But why should that be an
issue? I want the pictures on my computer. The way it is working is a pain. I
may have 40 new pictures on the chip but the wizard will show 400 pictures.
Have uncheck all and then click the 50.

The pictures are erased from the chip. If I press the display button, there
are no pictures to view on the camera.

"Michael J. Mahon" wrote:

> newtech wrote:
> > I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
> > erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
> > the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
> > it.
> >
> > However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
> > the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
> > and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
> > show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
> > shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
> >
> > I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
> > want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
> > little longer before I erase them.
>
> You're right--it makes no sense.
>
> Either the old pictures are not on the card, but are stored on your
> computer and are being shown, or, what you are doing to erase the
> card in your camera is not erasing all of them.
>
> Given the funkiness of most camera menus, I'm betting on the latter.
>
> Try it again, reading the menu prompts very carefully--they probably
> didn't make it easy to delete all your photos. This is most easily
> done on most cameras by *formatting* the card.
>
> -michael
>
> "The wastebasket is our most important design
> tool--and it's seriously underused."
>

newtech wrote:
> Yes, the pictures are stored on the computer. But why should that be an
> issue? I want the pictures on my computer. The way it is working is a pain. I
> may have 40 new pictures on the chip but the wizard will show 400 pictures.
> Have uncheck all and then click the 50.
>
> The pictures are erased from the chip. If I press the display button, there
> are no pictures to view on the camera.

Then that is apparently the way the wizard works.

Generally, each batch of photos is downloaded into a different
subdirectory, which is a good first step toward organizing them.

You might try that as a way of keeping the "new" separate from
the "old".

> "Michael J. Mahon" wrote:
>
>
>>newtech wrote:
>>
>>>I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
>>>erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
>>>the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
>>>it.
>>>
>>>However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
>>>the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
>>>and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
>>>show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
>>>shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
>>>
>>>I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
>>>want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
>>>little longer before I erase them.
>>
>>You're right--it makes no sense.
>>
>>Either the old pictures are not on the card, but are stored on your
>>computer and are being shown, or, what you are doing to erase the
>>card in your camera is not erasing all of them.
>>
>>Given the funkiness of most camera menus, I'm betting on the latter.
>>
>>Try it again, reading the menu prompts very carefully--they probably
>>didn't make it easy to delete all your photos. This is most easily
>>done on most cameras by *formatting* the card.

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

Not a good idea to use your computer to erase the files on your card.
You may want to check your menu selection in your camera about erasing
files, you may have selected to protect them.
As previously mentioned to you, the best way to erase everything is to
"Format" the card using your camera. Look in your camera manual for "Format"
to find this item and how to do it. This will erase everything and make the
card ready for new picture taking.


"newtech" <newtech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:11CF76FE-9D43-4281-93CF-76CDDE00041D@microsoft.com...
>I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
> erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I
> put
> the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures
> on
> it.
>
> However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
> the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip
> before
> and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does
> not
> show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the
> download
> shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
>
> I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
> want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my
> camera a
> little longer before I erase them.
>

If before I take any new pictures I erase all existing pictures using the
'erase all pictures' of the camera and then I click display and there are no
pictures, then when I go to download the pictures in ANY folder, the wizard
still shows 'old' and 'new' pictures. Ho can there be 'old' pictures since
the camera does not show any 'old' pictures on it. When in the past I used
the fuji software I never had this issue. So, I guess I need to reload the
fuji software. i will also look into the format feature and then do that
instead of putting more software on my computer.

What I don't understand is if the camera itself does not see old pictures,
why the wizard does. Oh well.

"Michael J. Mahon" wrote:

> newtech wrote:
> > Yes, the pictures are stored on the computer. But why should that be an
> > issue? I want the pictures on my computer. The way it is working is a pain. I
> > may have 40 new pictures on the chip but the wizard will show 400 pictures.
> > Have uncheck all and then click the 50.
> >
> > The pictures are erased from the chip. If I press the display button, there
> > are no pictures to view on the camera.
>
> Then that is apparently the way the wizard works.
>
> Generally, each batch of photos is downloaded into a different
> subdirectory, which is a good first step toward organizing them.
>
> You might try that as a way of keeping the "new" separate from
> the "old".
>
> > "Michael J. Mahon" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>newtech wrote:
> >>
> >>>I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
> >>>erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
> >>>the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
> >>>it.
> >>>
> >>>However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
> >>>the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
> >>>and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
> >>>show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
> >>>shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
> >>>
> >>>I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
> >>>want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
> >>>little longer before I erase them.
> >>
> >>You're right--it makes no sense.
> >>
> >>Either the old pictures are not on the card, but are stored on your
> >>computer and are being shown, or, what you are doing to erase the
> >>card in your camera is not erasing all of them.
> >>
> >>Given the funkiness of most camera menus, I'm betting on the latter.
> >>
> >>Try it again, reading the menu prompts very carefully--they probably
> >>didn't make it easy to delete all your photos. This is most easily
> >>done on most cameras by *formatting* the card.
>
> -michael
>
> "The wastebasket is our most important design
> tool--and it's seriously underused."
>

newtech wrote:
> If before I take any new pictures I erase all existing pictures using the
> 'erase all pictures' of the camera and then I click display and there are no
> pictures, then when I go to download the pictures in ANY folder, the wizard
> still shows 'old' and 'new' pictures. Ho can there be 'old' pictures since
> the camera does not show any 'old' pictures on it. When in the past I used
> the fuji software I never had this issue. So, I guess I need to reload the
> fuji software. i will also look into the format feature and then do that
> instead of putting more software on my computer.
>
> What I don't understand is if the camera itself does not see old pictures,
> why the wizard does. Oh well.

Apparently, the "wizard" is showing you every photo you have ever
downloaded! Weird, and not very useful.

I never use wizards or software included with cameras. I find that
the assumptions made by their authors are seldom aligned with my own.

I just open the card (in a reader) either by clicking on it or directly
in Windows (File) Explorer, open the DCIM subdirectory containing the
photo files, and then drag and drop the files to a new subdirectory on
my hard disk.

No wizards, no worries. ;-)

> "Michael J. Mahon" wrote:
>
>
>>newtech wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, the pictures are stored on the computer. But why should that be an
>>>issue? I want the pictures on my computer. The way it is working is a pain. I
>>>may have 40 new pictures on the chip but the wizard will show 400 pictures.
>>>Have uncheck all and then click the 50.
>>>
>>>The pictures are erased from the chip. If I press the display button, there
>>>are no pictures to view on the camera.
>>
>>Then that is apparently the way the wizard works.
>>
>>Generally, each batch of photos is downloaded into a different
>>subdirectory, which is a good first step toward organizing them.
>>
>>You might try that as a way of keeping the "new" separate from
>>the "old".
>>
>>
>>>"Michael J. Mahon" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>newtech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I will download pictures to my pc using microsoft camera wizard. I do not
>>>>>erase the pictures afterwards using microsoft camera feature. Instead I put
>>>>>the chip back in my camera and then erase. So then my chip has no pictures on
>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, here is the problem. The next time I go to download pictures form
>>>>>the chip microsoft camera wizard shows pictures that were on the chip before
>>>>>and the new pictures. How can this posssibly be the case? The camera does not
>>>>>show the old pictures on he chip before I do the download, but the download
>>>>>shows the old pictures. Makes no sense to me whatsover.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could let XP erase pictures and see what happens, but there are times I
>>>>>want to download pictures, but have them available for viewing on my camera a
>>>>>little longer before I erase them.
>>>>
>>>>You're right--it makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>>Either the old pictures are not on the card, but are stored on your
>>>>computer and are being shown, or, what you are doing to erase the
>>>>card in your camera is not erasing all of them.
>>>>
>>>>Given the funkiness of most camera menus, I'm betting on the latter.
>>>>
>>>>Try it again, reading the menu prompts very carefully--they probably
>>>>didn't make it easy to delete all your photos. This is most easily
>>>>done on most cameras by *formatting* the card.

-michael

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