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Old 07-04-2008, 08:52 AM
Link77
 
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Re: Floppy Boot Install - Service Pack 3
Peter,

The Promise controller is worse than the VIA one. Its totally unable to even
detect the DVD drive under any circumstances.

The VIA controller is unaware of the DVD drive as far is the BIOS is
concerned, but Windows detects it just fine.

Came across the following (sounds similiar to my problems):

http://www.tkarena.com/forums/ide-sa...-sata-hdd.html

So an updated Service Pack 3 Floppy set looks to be my only hope?


"peter" wrote:

> we read what you said...we have just never come across a system where the
> SATA Controller does NOT see the CD/DVD drives in
> the BIOS......and therefore wonder as to why your system would do that..
> By your answer I assume you are using the Promise Controller for the CD/DVD
> and have it turned on in the BIOS..both VIA and Promise enabled??
> and have done what Andy suggested???
> I also assume that you have tried the reverse set up..HD on the Promise SATA
> and CD/DVD on the VIA ???
>
> Like I said this puzzles me and further research is required...I am still
> searching and nowhere have I run across any article where
> the same problem exists...I have run across numerous tests of this mobo and
> they all loaded XP off CD without problems...
> what's different on yours????
>
> pk
>
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> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:451F55DE-980B-4FF1-817F-F68C043C64CB@microsoft.com...
> > I don't think you guys read what I'm saying.
> >
> > 1. The SATA chip is fully enabled in the BIOS as stated before.
> > 2. There is Hard drive connected to the SATA interface which the computer
> > boots from, so I know the SATA chip is working.
> > 3. As far as the Promise chip goes, its not very good. It's totally unable
> > to detect any optical drive.
> >
> > As far as I can see the only solution is the Floppy Install set?
> >
> > "Andy" wrote:
> >
> >> Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
> >> Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.
> >>

>
>

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Old 07-04-2008, 10:52 AM
Andy
 
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Re: Floppy Boot Install - Service Pack 3
I have the A8V and connected a DVD drive and a hard drive to the SATA
ports. The Via VT8237 RAID BIOS V2.01 does detect both drives, but the
ASUS BIOS does not provide the option to boot from the DVD drive.

I installed a PCI card that uses the VT6421 chip and connected the two
drives to the SATA connectors. The Via VT6421 RAID BIOS V4.50 does
detect both drives, and the ASUS BIOS provides the option to boot from
the DVD drive.

Why don't you use an IDE DVD drive to install?

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:10:02 -0700, Link77
<Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I don't think you guys read what I'm saying.
>
>1. The SATA chip is fully enabled in the BIOS as stated before.
>2. There is Hard drive connected to the SATA interface which the computer
>boots from, so I know the SATA chip is working.
>3. As far as the Promise chip goes, its not very good. It's totally unable
>to detect any optical drive.
>
>As far as I can see the only solution is the Floppy Install set?
>
>"Andy" wrote:
>
>> Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
>> Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:26:01 -0700, Link77
>> <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the problem.
>> >
>> >"peter" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
>> >> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
>> >>
>> >> peter
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
>> >> offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
>> >> If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
>> >> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
>> >> > hard
>> >> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
>> >> > DVD
>> >> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
>> >> > up.
>> >> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
>> >> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
>> >> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
>> >> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> user,
>> >> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
>> >> >> ATA
>> >> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Link77" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
>> >> >> > them
>> >> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
>> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> > without using a floppy drive.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
>> >> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
>> >> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
>> >> >> > service
>> >> >> > pack 3.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
>> >> >> > available? I really need those disks!
>> >>
>> >>

>>

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Old 07-04-2008, 06:01 PM
Link77
 
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Re: Floppy Boot Install - Service Pack 3
Well I don't have an IDE drive lying around and I don't want to go out and
buy one just to install an operating system. This kinda sucks. Haha

"Andy" wrote:

> I have the A8V and connected a DVD drive and a hard drive to the SATA
> ports. The Via VT8237 RAID BIOS V2.01 does detect both drives, but the
> ASUS BIOS does not provide the option to boot from the DVD drive.
>
> I installed a PCI card that uses the VT6421 chip and connected the two
> drives to the SATA connectors. The Via VT6421 RAID BIOS V4.50 does
> detect both drives, and the ASUS BIOS provides the option to boot from
> the DVD drive.
>
> Why don't you use an IDE DVD drive to install?
>
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:10:02 -0700, Link77
> <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I don't think you guys read what I'm saying.
> >
> >1. The SATA chip is fully enabled in the BIOS as stated before.
> >2. There is Hard drive connected to the SATA interface which the computer
> >boots from, so I know the SATA chip is working.
> >3. As far as the Promise chip goes, its not very good. It's totally unable
> >to detect any optical drive.
> >
> >As far as I can see the only solution is the Floppy Install set?
> >
> >"Andy" wrote:
> >
> >> Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
> >> Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:26:01 -0700, Link77
> >> <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the problem.
> >> >
> >> >"peter" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
> >> >> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
> >> >>
> >> >> peter
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
> >> >> offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
> >> >> If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
> >> >> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
> >> >> > hard
> >> >> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
> >> >> > DVD
> >> >> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
> >> >> > up.
> >> >> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
> >> >> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
> >> >> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
> >> >> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Andrew E." wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> user,
> >> >> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
> >> >> >> ATA
> >> >> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Link77" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
> >> >> >> > them
> >> >> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
> >> >> >> > XP
> >> >> >> > without using a floppy drive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> >> >> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> >> >> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
> >> >> >> > service
> >> >> >> > pack 3.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> >> >> >> > available? I really need those disks!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

>

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