Floppy Boot Install - Service Pack 3

I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects them
perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows XP
without using a floppy drive.

I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except service
pack 3.

Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
available? I really need those disks!

It seems to me that you need to check your BIOS settings as to why the BIOS
will not detect SATA DVD drives.
On both of my Systems using SATA DVD drives they are detected and I can and
have Installed XP as well as Vista in this manner.
Are they even listed in the BIOS?? Boot Order?? SATA enabled??

peter

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"Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58D2EF03-6DA9-4551-B04D-6DCB1F2F4A1E@microsoft.com...
> I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects them
> perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows XP
> without using a floppy drive.
>
> I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except service
> pack 3.
>
> Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> available? I really need those disks!

By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by the
user,
try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial ATA
(or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.

"Link77" wrote:

> I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects them
> perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows XP
> without using a floppy drive.
>
> I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except service
> pack 3.
>
> Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> available? I really need those disks!

The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA hard
drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not DVD
drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show up.
When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?

"Andrew E." wrote:

> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by the
> user,
> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial ATA
> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
>
> "Link77" wrote:
>
> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects them
> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows XP
> > without using a floppy drive.
> >
> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except service
> > pack 3.
> >
> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> > available? I really need those disks!

Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...

peter

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"Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
> hard
> drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
> DVD
> drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
> up.
> When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
> drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
> boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
> Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
>
> "Andrew E." wrote:
>
>> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
>> the
>> user,
>> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
>> ATA
>> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
>>
>> "Link77" wrote:
>>
>> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
>> > them
>> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
>> > XP
>> > without using a floppy drive.
>> >
>> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
>> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
>> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
>> > service
>> > pack 3.
>> >
>> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
>> > available? I really need those disks!

It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the problem.

"peter" wrote:

> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
>
> peter
>
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> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
> > hard
> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
> > DVD
> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
> > up.
> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
> >
> > "Andrew E." wrote:
> >
> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
> >> the
> >> user,
> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
> >> ATA
> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
> >>
> >> "Link77" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
> >> > them
> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
> >> > XP
> >> > without using a floppy drive.
> >> >
> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
> >> > service
> >> > pack 3.
> >> >
> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> >> > available? I really need those disks!
>
>

I see that the SATA/Ide controller is both Via and Promise

2 channels Serial ATA 150 via VT8237 south bridge with RAID 0,1 support
1 channel ATA/133 via Promise PDC20378 with RAID 0, 1, 0+1 support
2 channels Serial ATA 150 via Promise PDC20378 RAID with RAID 0, 1,

Promise PDC20378 SATA/IDE RAID

with some of the older mobo you actually needed to load the RAID drivers..
and of course it depends upon which controller you have you CD/DVD drives
plugged into

I couldn't find a diagram to tell me which SATA connector runs from what
chip..a little short on time today..but I will try again
later on...or maybe your mobo manual has that info.

hopefully this was some help
peter

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"Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:39FEF0A6-8989-4AAA-B4DA-0CBE0CD15483@microsoft.com...
> It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the
> problem.
>
> "peter" wrote:
>
>> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
>> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
>>
>> peter
>>
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>>
>> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
>> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running
>> > SATA
>> > hard
>> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
>> > DVD
>> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
>> > up.
>> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA
>> > chip
>> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply
>> > can't
>> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks
>> > for
>> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
>> >
>> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >
>> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
>> >> the
>> >> user,
>> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip
>> >> Serial
>> >> ATA
>> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
>> >>
>> >> "Link77" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows
>> >> > detects
>> >> > them
>> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > XP
>> >> > without using a floppy drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
>> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
>> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
>> >> > service
>> >> > pack 3.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
>> >> > available? I really need those disks!
>>
>>

Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:26:01 -0700, Link77
<Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the problem.
>
>"peter" wrote:
>
>> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
>> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
>>
>> peter
>>
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>>
>> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
>> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
>> > hard
>> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
>> > DVD
>> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
>> > up.
>> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
>> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
>> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
>> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
>> >
>> > "Andrew E." wrote:
>> >
>> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
>> >> the
>> >> user,
>> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
>> >> ATA
>> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
>> >>
>> >> "Link77" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
>> >> > them
>> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
>> >> > XP
>> >> > without using a floppy drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
>> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
>> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
>> >> > service
>> >> > pack 3.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
>> >> > available? I really need those disks!
>>
>>

I don't think you guys read what I'm saying.

1. The SATA chip is fully enabled in the BIOS as stated before.
2. There is Hard drive connected to the SATA interface which the computer
boots from, so I know the SATA chip is working.
3. As far as the Promise chip goes, its not very good. It's totally unable
to detect any optical drive.

As far as I can see the only solution is the Floppy Install set?

"Andy" wrote:

> Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
> Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:26:01 -0700, Link77
> <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >It's ASUS A8V Deluxe. Looks like its the VIA chipset that might be the problem.
> >
> >"peter" wrote:
> >
> >> Could you post the motherboard name and model ....
> >> This is a puzzling event I would like to research a little more...
> >>
> >> peter
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> "Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3F0B6EEF-C427-442E-8373-B42548ECFF4E@microsoft.com...
> >> > The SATA chip is enabled in the BIOS. The computers are all running SATA
> >> > hard
> >> > drives. It's as if the BIOS can only see connected hard drives, but not
> >> > DVD
> >> > drives. Under Boot order only the floppy drive and SATA hard drive show
> >> > up.
> >> > When I boot with the Windows XP floppy disks and I provide the SATA chip
> >> > drivers the installation picks up the DVD drive just fine, I simply can't
> >> > boot directly from the DVD drive. That is why I need the updated disks for
> >> > Service Pack 3. Can anyone help me in this regard?
> >> >
> >> > "Andrew E." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> By default a MB designed for SATA or RAID is disabled until opted by
> >> >> the
> >> >> user,
> >> >> try advanced chipset Integrated Peripherals (or similiar),on chip Serial
> >> >> ATA
> >> >> (or similiar)..Also,read the owners manual.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Link77" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I have a couple computers with SATA DVD drives. While Windows detects
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > perfectly the BIOS does not. This means that I can not install Windows
> >> >> > XP
> >> >> > without using a floppy drive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've come to rely on the Setup Disks for Floppy Boot Install
> >> >> > (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en).
> >> >> > Microsoft has released a new version for every service pack except
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > pack 3.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Are they still working on it? Does anyone know when it will be made
> >> >> > available? I really need those disks!
> >>
> >>
>

we read what you said...we have just never come across a system where the
SATA Controller does NOT see the CD/DVD drives in
the BIOS......and therefore wonder as to why your system would do that..
By your answer I assume you are using the Promise Controller for the CD/DVD
and have it turned on in the BIOS..both VIA and Promise enabled??
and have done what Andy suggested???
I also assume that you have tried the reverse set up..HD on the Promise SATA
and CD/DVD on the VIA ???

Like I said this puzzles me and further research is required...I am still
searching and nowhere have I run across any article where
the same problem exists...I have run across numerous tests of this mobo and
they all loaded XP off CD without problems...
what's different on yours????

pk

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"Link77" <Link77@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:451F55DE-980B-4FF1-817F-F68C043C64CB@microsoft.com...
> I don't think you guys read what I'm saying.
>
> 1. The SATA chip is fully enabled in the BIOS as stated before.
> 2. There is Hard drive connected to the SATA interface which the computer
> boots from, so I know the SATA chip is working.
> 3. As far as the Promise chip goes, its not very good. It's totally unable
> to detect any optical drive.
>
> As far as I can see the only solution is the Floppy Install set?
>
> "Andy" wrote:
>
>> Connect the DVD drive to SATA1 or SATA2 connector. In BIOS under
>> Advanced menu, Enable OnChip SATA Boot ROM.
>>