Re: Digital Video Camera Not Detected

I have been fighting a similar problem for the past 2 years - Sony DCR-PC1
not recognized when connected to Firewire port.

I went down the route that had worked for some of downgrading drivers to
pre-XP SP2 version, with no effect.

In my case, my camera worked when connected to a Firewire port on a laptop
in the office, but not on either of my 2 home PCs. I tried 3 different
Firewire cards with different chipsets, 3 different cables - no luck.

Recently I tried again, having replaced one of my home PCs. Once again
camera not recognized when connect to Firewire port. I bought yet another
laptop home from the office - everything works fine.

Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my home PCs
- the actual Firewire port. Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.

So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
connected. Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin.

I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
6-pin carries power. Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
dicussed in this newgroup many times. I hope my experience helps someone
else.

Les
"Red Blanchard" wrote:

> To add the latest, I bought an "iSight" camera and plugged it into the same
> port
> on the computer, and it worked perfectly right away. So, could something be
> wrong with my new Canon, or is there one missing step?
>
> "Red Blanchard" wrote:
>
> > I bought a Canon XHA1 camera and when it is plugged into the Firewire on the
> > computer, I get the ding-dong sound, and it appears in the device manager
> > fine.
> > However it does not show up in "My Computer" and none of my Video Editing
> > programs can "capture" it. Using XP PRO SP2. The camera is working and
> > powereds from AC and I tried more than one 1394 cable, but nothing shows up
> > except in device manager. Any suggestions? Thanks
> >
> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > > Ask a friend who also has a digital camcorder if you can borrow his/hers for
> > > half an hour or so and see if that one works on your notebook.
> > > --
> > > Cari (MS-MVP)
> > > Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
> > > http://www.coribright.com/windows
> > >
> > > "PeterC" <PeterC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news98DA476-6EEC-4A2F-B499-6E9895A289B7@microsoft.com...
> > > > Yes Cari as far as I can determine from Device manager. I have uninstalled
> > > > firewire port and on reboot it is reinstalled. I don't have any other
> > > > devices
> > > > to try on it.
> > > >
> > > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Are you sure the firewire port on the notebook is working correctly?
> > > >> --
> > > >> Cari (MS-MVP)
> > > >> Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
> > > >> http://www.coribright.com/windows
> > > >>
> > > >> "PeterC" <PeterC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:3363A7CB-99AE-448C-BBFC-F85BB63351A6@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > Vista Home Premium on my HP laptop will not recognize the firewire
> > > >> > connection
> > > >> > to Sony Digital Video cameras. Have tried a MS workaround editing the
> > > >> > registry on KB but this does not work either. Yes the camera is turned
> > > >> > on
> > > >> > correctly etc. as it hooks up straight away to a desktop running XP.
> > > >> > Any clues to making this work?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Cari (MS MVP)" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Is the camcorder:-
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Turned on?
> > > >> >> In VCR Mode?
> > > >> >> Powered by A/C and NOT its internal battery?
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
> > > >> >> www.coribright.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Pat O" <pobministries@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> news:28df101c464e4$448da0b0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > >> >> >I have install a 1394 FireWire Adapter which my computer
> > > >> >> > recognizes and indicates that it is working. However
> > > >> >> > when I plug my Panasonic Digital Video Camera into the
> > > >> >> > system, the camera is not recognized.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Help
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >

"Les" wrote:

> Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my home PCs
> - the actual Firewire port. Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
> 4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
> connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.
>
> So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
> connected. Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin.
>
> I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
> 6-pin carries power. Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
> for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
> dicussed in this newgroup many times. I hope my experience helps someone
> else.

Les, that explanation makes sense to me. I will try and find a similar pci
card.

I have also read that the Sony camcorder won't work with a firewire port
that is bridged. I am not sure if that is the correct term, but I think it
is meant to refer to a firewire port on the front of the computer that has
the long wires running inside to the pci card that is actually in the back of
the computer. That is how mine is currently set up. So, I will try your way
in a while, once I can locate that kind of pci card.

For clarification, is the small port on the camera 4 pin? So, the new pci
port will match the camera port? Thank you for posting.

On 27 tammi, 06:57, karen100 <karen...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> "Les" wrote:
> > Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my homePCs
> > - the actual Firewire port. *Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
> > 4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
> > connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.
>
> > So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
> > connected. *Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin..
>
> > I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
> > 6-pin carries power. *Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
> > for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
> > dicussed in this newgroup many times. *I hope my experience helps someone
> > else.
>
> Les, that explanation makes sense to me. *I will try and find a similar pci
> card.
>
> I have also read that the Sony camcorder won't work with a firewire port
> that is bridged. *I am not sure if that is the correct term, but I thinkit
> is meant to refer to a firewire port on the front of the computer that has
> the long wires running inside to the pci card that is actually in the backof
> the computer. *That is how mine is currently set up. *So, I will try your way
> in a while, once I can locate that kind of pci card.
>
> For clarification, is the small port on the camera 4 pin? *So, the new pci
> port will match the camera port? * Thank you for posting.

I have the same problem as everyone else in this thread; the firewire
port is existing and working ok in the Device Manager, but it will not
recognise my DVcam (nothing happens, no ding-dong, when I connect the
cam). Everything has been working for me for several years, a JVC
DVcam connected to the Firewire port on a Creative Audigy EX-unit, but
a month ago I did change the mainboard and processor in my computer
and reinstalled XP Pro on the harddisk (still using the same Audigy
and DVCam), and after that the DVCam is not recognised.

Have you other guys found the solution to your problems? Did the 4-pin
to 4-pin cable work for you, karen100?

Sten

On 13 maalis, 12:39, sten.si...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 27 tammi, 06:57, karen100 <karen...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Les" wrote:
> > > Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my home PCs
> > > - the actual Firewire port. *Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
> > > 4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
> > > connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.
>
> > > So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
> > > connected. *Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin.
>
> > > I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
> > > 6-pin carries power. *Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
> > > for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
> > > dicussed in this newgroup many times. *I hope my experience helps someone
> > > else.
>
> > Les, that explanation makes sense to me. *I will try and find a similar pci
> > card.
>
> > I have also read that the Sony camcorder won't work with a firewire port
> > that is bridged. *I am not sure if that is the correct term, but I think it
> > is meant to refer to a firewire port on the front of the computer that has
> > the long wires running inside to the pci card that is actually in the back of
> > the computer. *That is how mine is currently set up. *So, I will tryyour way
> > in a while, once I can locate that kind of pci card.
>
> > For clarification, is the small port on the camera 4 pin? *So, the newpci
> > port will match the camera port? * Thank you for posting.
>
> I have the same problem as everyone else in this thread; the firewire
> port is existing and working ok in the Device Manager, but it will not
> recognise my DVcam (nothing happens, no ding-dong, when I connect the
> cam). Everything has been working for me for several years, a JVC
> DVcam connected to the Firewire port on a Creative Audigy EX-unit, but
> a month ago I did change the mainboard and processor in my computer
> and reinstalled XP Pro on the harddisk (still using the same Audigy
> and DVCam), and after that the DVCam is not recognised.
>
> Have you other guys found the solution to your problems? Did the 4-pin
> to 4-pin cable work for you, karen100?
>
> Sten- Piilota siteerattu teksti -
>
> - Näytä siteerattu teksti -

I already myself got it working: I completely unistalled the Audigy
(both software and hardware); restarted the computer without the
Audigy; reinstalled it and let Windows reinstall all the drivers; and
now I get the ding-ding when connecting the camera!

Don't know what was wrong, but now it works!

Sten

> >
> > Have you other guys found the solution to your problems? Did the 4-pin
> > to 4-pin cable work for you, karen100?
> >
> > Sten- Piilota siteerattu teksti -
> >
> > - Näytä siteerattu teksti -
>
> I already myself got it working: I completely unistalled the Audigy
> (both software and hardware); restarted the computer without the
> Audigy; reinstalled it and let Windows reinstall all the drivers; and
> now I get the ding-ding when connecting the camera!
>
> Don't know what was wrong, but now it works!
>
> Sten
>
Hi Sten,

No, I never got my camcorder to be recognized. I wasn't able to install a
new pci card yet, so I just let it go. It was so much trouble to pursue, I
just continued with the slower USB connection. It is encouraging to hear
that your problem was solved. Thanks for posting, at least now I know a
solution IS possible. ... Karen